No, I don't wish to carry on with you (personally) anymore more because if anything was abundantly clear from that other thread you refer to, it was your remarkably sensitive & defensive reaction to myself & anyone else who as much as even questioned the claim that India were categorically the no 1 test side & also questioning the quality of their bowlers. It's not like I'm saying something totally unreasonable like "Chris Martin's a better bat than Tendulkar'. If you're not willing to debate the point without getting so emotional & resorting to condescending insults & accusations (like the one above about insight), then I suggest you put me on ignore & I'll do the same as it's not fair on other posters.
Most honest fans know very little separates the top 3-4 test sides right now & as it's clearly subjective as to whether one such team is clearly the best (unless one takes the ICC methodology literally) hence should be debated accordingly.
I may the only poster who feels this way, but it seems almost 'taboo' to argue any point against the Indian team (or their players) these days sadly detracting from the enjoyment of the forum IMHO.
1. No one's made the claim that India's categorically #1 team. Certainly not me. You're tilting at non-existent windmills, Mr Quixote.
What they have done is ascended to #1 in a reasonably fair ranking system (and now held that ranking).
2. Indian bowling, without any superstar, is still pretty darn effective.Certainly this is what
I said then, and after this test in particular - have no qualms about.
They took 10 wickets with 3 bowlers in the second innings, and not just 3 bowlers - minus Zaheer, by far the one bowler in the squad (post-Kumble) who can out think the batsman.
The point I made then wrt Indian bowling is: They're pretty good because they go up against other
batting sides and bowl them out reasonably consistently (i.e. at least once every series*). I.e. compare Indian bowling to other people's batting line ups, which are not particularly poor atm.
In short: the only stand I'm "defending" (military analogies, ha ha) is:
Over the past ~ 3 years Indian bowling has been more than good enough to be competetive in every series ( win at least one match), that's why India have deservedly ascended to #1 ranking .
Beyond this, you're just making stuff up - if referring to me. (& I don't live in a black&white world, so to me there's no further assertions to follow the #1 ranking). The insult in this case was well directed - you deleted out the next few
words from someone's post while quoting them, to completely change the context of what was said. That is **** behavior in any sort of meaningful discussion.
* One series in Pakistan 2006 where this did not happen in the last 5 years.
It's really not that difficult to grasp is it? They WON with 8 or 9 balls to spare in the final wash regardless of whether or not 3 full days were lost, hence they won just in the nick of time, by a dogs whisker, a cats bollocks ...whatever you like.
