Debris
International 12th Man
Guilty until proven innocent?We don't know that the aussies don't do it they just havent been caught.
Guilty until proven innocent?We don't know that the aussies don't do it they just havent been caught.
Yay for completely baseless and unconfirmed inflammatory posts!Like an Australian team that's been leaning on and intimidating umpires for as long as I've followed cricket, as well as claiming grassed catches, wouldn't do something similarly dodgy in regards to the ball.
He has clearly proved he isn't all bark and no bite...Afridi clearly bit off more then he could chew.
Yay for completely baseless and unconfirmed inflammatory posts!
Fact.Like an Australian team that's been leaning on and intimidating umpires for as long as I've followed cricket,
Fact.as well as claiming grassed catches,
Perfectly reasonable extension of logic.wouldn't do something similarly dodgy in regards to the ball
Why do people have to resort ot lies. Does Australias success upset you so much that you resort to lying to discredit them only to make yourself look like such a fool.Fact.
Fact.
Perfectly reasonable extension of logic.
Hmm okay you're an idiot. Been a while since I added someone to ignore.Why do people have to resort ot lies. Does Australias success upset you so much that you resort to lying to discredit them only to make yourself look like such a fool.
Please expand more on this wonderful, but fallicious slippery slope argument argument that appealing for grassed catches leads to the rational conclusion one should eat a cricket ball in front of a live and massive TV audience.Fact. Yes.
Fact. Yes.
Perfectly reasonable extension of logic. No.
Considering their recent history is they have never tampered with the ball the only thing you can conclude from that is they dont tamper with the ball.Err no it leads to the conclusion that one or more of the Australian team would tamper with the ball. I reckon most teams will have done it to some degree, I don't see why Australia would be excluded from it given their recent history.
No, just no presumption of innocence if guilt is not proven.Guilty until proven innocent?
Err no it leads to the conclusion that one or more of the Australian team would tamper with the ball. I reckon most teams will have done it to some degree, I don't see why Australia would be excluded from it given their recent history.
Never been caught tampering with the ball.Considering their recent history is they have never tampered with the ball
No its simpler than that, We dont say Flitoff was a ball tamperer and cheat because he has never been caught or charged with ball tampering, do you consider it acceptable to call him a ball tamperer because it is not proven that he did not.Never been caught tampering with the ball.
The suggestion that Australians have unequivocally not tampered with balls is as ludicrous as the suggestion that they have. Anyone contending they've clearly never done it has as little clue as anyone contending they probably have.
Like an Australian team that's been leaning on and intimidating umpires for as long as I've followed cricket, as well as claiming grassed catches, wouldn't do something similarly dodgy in regards to the ball.
If you look carefully I said that it is not acceptable to call anyone a ball-tamperer unless they've been found to have used sharp objects or vaseline (or equivalent) on a ball. However it is equally laughable to say that because someone has not been caught doing something that this automatically means they haven't done it.No its simpler than that, We dont say Flitoff was a ball tamperer and cheat because he has never been caught or charged with ball tampering, do you consider it acceptable to call him a ball tamperer because it is not proven that he did not.