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Shri

Mr. Glass
Two players who come to the mind immediately are Sadagopan Ramesh and Hemang Badani. They deserved better.
There were better players in other states who did not get a chance either or some who had very few chances. The current time period is a very good one for cricket in India imo. The regional bias and other politics that existed some decades back have drastically come down. Thanks largely to television and other media.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Sadagoppan Ramesh. Played the Pakistani pacers superbly but didn't get much chance for an Indian opener. Also, there is another player I can't think of right now. Tamil Nadu players always seem to get the hard end of the stick from where I see it.

That said, Srikkanth definitely was a mediocre player.
Two players who come to the mind immediately are Sadagopan Ramesh.
I loved S Ramesh and liked his batting. I believe he was one of the most talented openers in the 90s but he threw it away. From what I have heard He had a reputation for being irresponsible and lazy. Had fitness issues.

Watching him throw away his wicket in 1999 WC against Zimbabwe was so painful and I will never forget that. His Sr. partner (Jadeja) kept telling him not to take unnecessary risks and take and he just ignored it and did just the opposite. I do not believe that sat very well with his future captain Ganguly.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
There were better players in other states who did not get a chance either or some who had very few chances. The current time period is a very good one for cricket in India imo. The regional bias and other politics that existed some decades back have drastically come down. Thanks largely to television and other media.
Ashok ****ing Dinda was selected for India and even played an international. Zonal biases still exist. They are deep rooted though not as obvious as in the past The selection system - of appointing one selector from each zone (which the zone nominates thus putting pressure on the selector to get players from 'his zone' in the team is flawed at it's very core. I know more exposure means players like Badrinath are not missed but the system remains a stenchy one.
 
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Shri

Mr. Glass
Ashok ****ing Dinda was selected for India and even played an international. Zonal biases still exist. They are deep rooted though not as obvious as in the past The selection system - of appointing one selector from each zone (which the zone nominates thus putting pressure on the selector to get players from 'his zone' in the team is flawed at it's very core. I know more exposure means players like Badrinath are not missed but the system remains a stenchy one.
Can be explained away as a case of a long overdue brain explosion of our selectors. (Which they think they are entitled to).
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Ashok ****ing Dinda was selected for India and even played an international. Zonal biases still exist. They are deep rooted though not as obvious as in the past The selection system - of appointing one selector from each zone (which the zone nominates thus putting pressure on the selector to get players from 'his zone' in the team is flawed at it's very core. I know more exposure means players like Badrinath are not missed but the system remains a stenchy one.
While not denying that Zonal biases exist, we have come long way in last 10 years, since Ganguly became captain. Ashok Dinda has played in Only one International and that too is T20 and he didn't do too bad there.

1st T20I: India v Sri Lanka at Nagpur, Dec 9, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Yeah I agree it is better than before but it is not due to Ganguly IMO. Captains have backed players before in the past and got them. Not that long before Ganguly, Tendulkar got Bahutule, Dighe just like Ganguly got Karim, Laxmi Ratan Shukla, and players from other states like Harbhajan and Dhoni.

It is more to do with more exposure. We get so many Ranji Trophy games live via Neo Sports today. We have IPL. Talent cannot hide any more. No one could hide Sudeep Tyagi from getting into the team.
 
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Manee

Cricketer Of The Year
On Dinda, I watched him closely as I follow Knightriders. He is a good T20 bowler but not international standard IMO.
Would agree with this. He is not a poor bowler, by any means, and bowled spells which troubled some good batsmen but he just about lacks the speed (to complement his style) to make the step up to T20I level.
 

Cruxdude

International Debutant
I agree regional bias has come down a lot. Badani was a really talented cricketer. A good batsman and a wonderful fielder. His 100 against Australia was a brilliant knock but sadly he never got a lot of chances. Somehow though I still believe that the main reason Murali Vijay is getting a chance to play for India now is Srikkanth.
 

Pratters

Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Badri is there. Now if it was Tendulkar we had to replace, THAT would be tough. We might have lost to Bangladesh without him.
 

wood-e

Cricket Spectator
I am not from TamilNadu, but I can tell you that I am as happy as anyone to see Badri play for India. That said, I would like to know which TamilNadu player was robbed of his place (minus Badri). The fact that Kris Srikanth got to play for India for 50 Tests is proof enough that Tamilnadu had gotten its fair share (or at times unfair share) like many other states.
Sorry about the late reply as stated above by someone else S Ramesh and Hemang Badani i cannot for the life of me believe what Hemang did wrong always performed well for India. Robin Singh should have most defenitely been given more chances earlier in life the ammount of drop kicks that we awarded test caps to in the 90's was just ridiculous. Debashish Mohanty Dodda Ganesh there was one ridiculos opener who came and played here in 2001 Devang Ghandi I think his name was. I remember Robin came and performed admirably in the ODI's that followed and everyone was saying why he was not included in the Test squad. Even Dinesh Karthik keeps getting robbed. I noticed he was dropped for Saha the Bengal WK what has dinesh done wrong one bad shot in Bangladesh when we all screwed up in that first innings. Or what about L Shiva never being recalled to the team despite stellar first class performances with bat and b all.
What about Thiru Kumaran just as good if not better than some of the medium pacers who played for India. or the talented leg spinner Balaji Rao who know plays for the canadian national team. Even right now L Balaji is way down the pecking order. He is a great limited overs bowler much better than our man Dinda as we saw in the IPL. Yet Munaf
Patel and co keep getting chances. What about Ashwin keeps getting thrown at the bottom of the pile aswell because of Ojha and Mishra. Need i say more?

Having said that all that my thoughts are very biased towards players from Tamil Nadu its because im patriotic there is nothing wrong with that and although Kris Srikkanth did not have the greatest record he did form a great opening partnership with Sunny.


I am really happy that Regional Bias are changing but i will always be Biased towards my state and there is nothing wrong with that.
Im just praying the duo of Vijay and Badri stay staunch for years to come.
 
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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Sorry about the late reply as stated above by someone else S Ramesh and Hemang Badani i cannot for the life of me believe what Hemang did wrong always performed well for India. Robin Singh should have most defenitely been given more chances earlier in life the ammount of drop kicks that we awarded test caps to in the 90's was just ridiculous. Debashish Mohanty Dodda Ganesh there was one ridiculos opener who came and played here in 2001 Devang Ghandi I think his name was. I remember Robin came and performed admirably in the ODI's that followed and everyone was saying why he was not included in the Test squad. Even Dinesh Karthik keeps getting robbed. I noticed he was dropped for Saha the Bengal WK what has dinesh done wrong one bad shot in Bangladesh when we all screwed up in that first innings. Or what about L Shiva never being recalled to the team despite stellar first class performances with bat and b all.
What about Thiru Kumaran just as good if not better than some of the medium pacers who played for India. or the talented leg spinner Balaji Rao who know plays for the canadian national team. Even right now L Balaji is way down the pecking order. He is a great limited overs bowler much better than our man Dinda as we saw in the IPL. Yet Munaf
Patel and co keep getting chances. What about Ashwin keeps getting thrown at the bottom of the pile aswell because of Ojha and Mishra. Need i say more?

Having said that all that my thoughts are very biased towards players from Tamil Nadu its because im patriotic there is nothing wrong with that and although Kris Srikkanth did not have the greatest record he did form a great opening partnership with Sunny.


I am really happy that Regional Bias are changing but i will always be Biased towards my state and there is nothing wrong with that.
Im just praying the duo of Vijay and Badri stay staunch for years to come.
I am not sure I agree entirely with your post.. I am a TN guy as well but at least you are ready to accept you are biased.. Good on that. :)
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
Is there any realistic way by which Badrinath is not making his test debut here?

The squad is:
Sehwag,Gambhir,M Vijay
Tendulkar,Laxman,Badri,
Dhoni,Saha
Zaheer, Ishant, Mithun, Tyagi
Harbhajan, Mishra, Ojha

I don't see India play five specialist bowlers without Dravid against SA (which is the main combination that keeps him out).

I see even less the chance that Saha will be WK and Dhoni play as a specialist bat. (Karthik being replaced by Saha was a good thing for Badri).

The only other interesting question is who the fourth bowler might be. Ishant better be at the top of his game if we're playing 2 spinners. And the second spinner better be good at taking wickets else might as well toss the ball to Sehwag.
 

HMas

U19 12th Man
Against SA at home

Sachin averages 28 at home in 8 matches.

Dravid averages 39 in 10 matches.

Laxman averages 22 in 8 matches.

Ganguly only averaged 31 in 9 matches played.

:-O
 

Cruxdude

International Debutant
I think India will play with

Sehwag, Gambhir, Vijay, Sachin, Laxman, Badri, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Mishra, Zaheer, Ishant. The middle order does look a lot different with Badri and Vijay. Hope they step it up.
 

jeevan

International 12th Man
Against SA at home

Sachin averages 28 at home in 8 matches.

Dravid averages 39 in 10 matches.

Laxman averages 22 in 8 matches.

Ganguly only averaged 31 in 9 matches played.

:-O
Would you still need to send a petition to divine powers, then?
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Against SA at home

Sachin averages 28 at home in 8 matches.

Dravid averages 39 in 10 matches.

Laxman averages 22 in 8 matches.

Ganguly only averaged 31 in 9 matches played.

:-O
Yes, Indian batsmen don't do well against SA generally. SA have also been one of the more successful sides in terms of touring India (as well as playing them at home). So this will definitely be a challenge for India, but they need to win to put a stamp on it. A draw will keep the status quo (as the last series was drawn). If SA manage to beat the #1 side in their own home, they would definitely be the #1 side (and I think the rankings will reflect this as well, but even if not, that's what they deserve).
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Yes, really looking forward to it. My hopes are he gets more than 1 Test because the Great Yuvraj might be fit for the second Test and obviously he needs a few more chances to cement his place ...8-)
 

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