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*Official* Indian Premier League 2010

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
I am still confuse.. so the rule for these Frenchies are that they have to pick indian upcoming players over international cricketers? for example all these upcoming under 19 cricketers that we haven't heard of.. they are being picked over international cricketers here..
You can only have 10 internationals, but as many local players as possible. Most of the players tha were missed weren't in the franchises top 10 options I guess.
 

Craig

World Traveller
Quite clearly Franchises don't want to bet on Pakistani players because of the uncertainty around political relations between India and Pakistan. You don't know when they refuse/ are not allowed to play in India. Also under the circumstances, "paying huge" for Pakistani players to play in India may attract negative PRs and thus affect sponsorships. Especially after 26/11.
Shows how ******** the media is. As if any of the Pakistani players had anything to do with what happened in Mumbai.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
Well, that went more or less as expected then. Players like Henderson, ten Doeschate, van der Wath, Haddin, Swann are not among the world's best Twenty20 players, they were never going to attract a (sensible) bid from a franchise.

Manou a bit of an exception there...

Shakib also should have definitely have been snapped up.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Manou wasn't picked....

Sold players: Kieron Pollard (Mumbai, USD750,000+), Shane Bond (Kolkata, 750,000+), Kemar Roach (Deccan, 720,000), Wayne Parnell (Delhi, 610,000), Mohammad Kaif (Punjab, 250,000), Eoin Morgan (Bangalore, 220,000), Damien Martyn (Rajasthan, 100,000), Justin Kemp (Chennai, 100,000), Thissara Perera (Chennai, 50,000), Adam Voges (Rajasthan, 50,000), Yusuf Abdulla (Punjab, 50,000)
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Henderson and Swann were worth a bid. Both gobble up batting sides, can strike the ball well and stay on long enough. They could come useful for Deccan (weak bowling attack), Kolkata (not enough all-rounders), Punjab (replacement for Brett Lee) or Mumbai (need run-scoring bowlers). They're hot picks in any T20 team, at least at the domestic level.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Delhi may have missed out here. They won't get Vettori for the whole season, so a replacement should have been found. Likewise, with Dirk Nannes likely to return to Australia for the domestic event, they could have chosen someone. While two middle-order slots were fixed with Dilshan and AB, they could strengthen their bowling a little (they tried it, and failed to catch Bond) and get someone like Henderson or Swann, to balance the team.
 

Sir Alex

Banned
Shows how ******** the media is. As if any of the Pakistani players had anything to do with what happened in Mumbai.
I don't agree with it and yes the media is ******** most of the times. However the underlying logic or the lack of it is universal. When it comes to a clash between nationalist sentiments and cold logic, the former invariably win and business logic here is derived out of that. Unfortunate? Yes. Inevitable? Yes.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Delhi may have missed out here. They won't get Vettori for the whole season, so a replacement should have been found. Likewise, with Dirk Nannes likely to return to Australia for the domestic event, they could have chosen someone. While two middle-order slots were fixed with Dilshan and AB, they could strengthen their bowling a little (they tried it, and failed to catch Bond) and get someone like Henderson or Swann, to balance the team.
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Deccan (weak bowling attack), Mumbai (need run-scoring bowlers).
I guess that why Deccan brough Roach and when Pollard can score some runs and bowl as well for Mumbai.

Hendersen is poor at this level as he showed with the Royals. Swann like other spinners would be a wasted internationals with the half decent Indian spinners around.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
What can be understood from these bids? Mumbai Indians' Kieron Pollard bid, a hot one, with an undisclosed (so far?) price, may be very useful for that team. Here's a batsman with a massive strike rate, who can also chip off wickets regularly. We don't know if Sanath will get all the games (they dropped him once), and hopefully their dependence on Duminy will end, but he lends balance to this team, lacking once Shaun Pollock retired.

Kolkata's bid for Shane Bond may be a victory in bidding, but will this help their on-field performances much? Their bowling, good as it is man for man, has crumbled under pressure a few times, though Shoaib Akhtar once won a game for them. Their butter-fingered, ungainly fielding may not be helped much by this selection, but they've got a player for the whole season.

Kemar Roach has just played two T20 games, so it's a surprise that they chased him. Their bowling attack is, frankly, rather flimsy, and though this may fortify that attack a little, it won't be much.

Bangalore bid for Eoin Morgan, but he won't get much of the season, given that they've got Taylor, Ryder, Pietersen, Steyn, Roelof and so many other classy internationals. Besides, he'll be coming after a series with the national team, then go back for the domestic event. Not really worth the chase. The bid for Ashok Menaria is an interesting one.

Punjab have gone in for Yusuf Abdulla a second time, and it's worth it, despite the shortcomings. He served his team well until Smith, Ojha and their Royal teammates smashed him all around. The hard-fought bid for Mohammed Kaif is an interesting one- he was offloaded by Shilpa Shetty's team, but Preity-Ness got him so that they could get better Indian players, well aware of the rule here. Kaif wasn't really one of the best, but was the only Indian in the fray, so they tried for that. Their inadequate strike rate won't be helped much, though.

Rajasthan have two value-for-money bids here. Damien Martyn has good T20 figures, but his lack of action in the last few years may go against him. Adam Voges isn't the most spectacular T20 player, but may at best get the job done. They'll surely miss Tyron Henderson, though Shane Watson will be available again, albeit briefly.

Chennai's bid attempts were very, very tame. First, they picked up Justin Kemp, who adds little or nothing to that team. Then, they went in for Thissara Perera, who's very much a rookie, in comparison to Thilan Thushara, whom they already have. They've picked two to warm the bench, nothing more.

A correction- Delhi have got Wayne Parnell, though he won't have as much of an impact as the one he'll replace. He's not much of a run-scorer, though he's touted as one. They should have tried harder here, and outbid Kolkata for Bond.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
chaminda_00 said:
When you have the most talented all rounder in the world who else do you need.
Will you play him in all of the season? They'd be tempted to play McCullum, Gayle, Hodge, Husey and Mendis ahead of him most of the time.
chaminda_00 said:
I guess that why Deccan brough Roach and when Pollard can score some runs and bowl as well for Mumbai.

Hendersen is poor at this level as he showed with the Royals. Swann like other spinners would be a wasted internationals with the half decent Indian spinners around.
Roach is a T20 rookie, while Pollard is a good pick. Besides, Henderson got one (?) game for Royals, and was benched, with misfits like Quiney and Carsledine getting most of the season, who were even worse. What's so wrong with him? He's got a decent average, an appetising strike rate, and loads of T20 wickets for not too many. Teams that need balance or better bowling (or at least a decent spinner) could use him.
 

Edged&Taken

U19 Vice-Captain
Chennai's bid attempts were very, very tame. First, they picked up Justin Kemp, who adds little or nothing to that team. Then, they went in for Thissara Perera, who's very much a rookie, in comparison to Thilan Thushara, whom they already have. They've picked two to warm the bench, nothing more.

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i would play that guy in a few matches. he is good !!!
 

chaminda_00

Hall of Fame Member
Will you play him in all of the season? They'd be tempted to play McCullum, Gayle, Hodge, Husey and Mendis ahead of him most of the time.Roach is a T20 rookie, while Pollard is a good pick. Besides, Henderson got one (?) game for Royals, and was benched, with misfits like Quiney and Carsledine getting most of the season, who were even worse. What's so wrong with him? He's got a decent average, an appetising strike rate, and loads of T20 wickets for not too many. Teams that need balance or better bowling (or at least a decent spinner) could use him.
Mathews should play a lot more then he has in the past. The problem with KKR is that they go over the top with their batting options and their bowling is poor. He should get more game time or they will struggle again this season. It about balance as much top billers.

Consdiering the bowling options when you take out the Aussies and Pakistan players. Roach is a good selection. Maybe too high, but it is supply and demand.

It was basically Mascarenhas that was preferred over Henderson and Harwood to an extent, not the domestic batsmen. If Morkel and Botha are able to play more matches next season. There is little need for Henderson. They already rely too much on domestic standard international players. Henderson a solid T20 player, but basically just a solid domestic cricketer. You need international standard players for your internationals.
 

Jayzamann

International Regular
I really hope Roach doesn't buckle under the hype and expectation like Sharma did. Being able to rough up Ricky Ponting doesn't necessarily mean you're worth a chip under a million dollars, you still need to prove yourself.

Pollard, Morgan and possibly Parnell were the top pickups for mine. In terms of value, weighted with experience, definitely Martyn.

Really super duperly looking forward to IPL3 now.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Shows how ******** the media is. As if any of the Pakistani players had anything to do with what happened in Mumbai.
Thats not the point. The Pakistani govt refused to send their players to IPL2 after the november attacks. Why should the franchises waste a spot to unpredictability?

HTF did Deccan and Chennai let KKR get Bond though? Surely they don't think he'll break down after a couple of overs? Smartest move IMO was KXIP getting Bharath on board. He's young and quality and value for money.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Mathews should play a lot more then he has in the past. The problem with KKR is that they go over the top with their batting options and their bowling is poor. He should get more game time or they will struggle again this season. It about balance as much top billers.

Consdiering the bowling options when you take out the Aussies and Pakistan players. Roach is a good selection. Maybe too high, but it is supply and demand.

It was basically Mascarenhas that was preferred over Henderson and Harwood to an extent, not the domestic batsmen. If Morkel and Botha are able to play more matches next season. There is little need for Henderson. They already rely too much on domestic standard international players. Henderson a solid T20 player, but basically just a solid domestic cricketer. You need international standard players for your internationals.
Then what would be your internationals, your bowling attack and top five batting? I'd say, with Matthews as a regular, you'd have Bond, Hodge and D-Hussey at first, then replace the Aussies with McCullum and Gayle, though you'd still struggle to have Mendis in the team. The bowling attack can then be Bond, Ishant, Shukla and spinner Karthik (or even Abdulla), but they'd struggle to fit in three o four seamers here. The top five can have Hodge and Hussey, followed by McCullum and Gayle.

I don't really know if Roach will really make an impact, because his predecessor Fidel Edwards didn't do much and was outperformed by RP Singh. The problem arises when the fifth bowler is filled in. Harmeet Singh was less than ordinary, Dwayne Smith may not be used much, Tiru Suman is a joke of a bowler and Rohit Sharma, well, go back to Dwayne Smith. Here, the run-scoring bowler would come useful.

The Season 1 lineup had Watson, Tanvir, Smith and Warne. They were missing Watto and Tanvir for obvious reasons, so their replacements were Mascarenhas and (largely) one of Quiney and Carsledine. While the preference may be for an international, someone like Henderson would (here) come cheap, and deliver more than his value. Many teams rely greatly on domestic veterans from overseas (and the team that released Henderson bought out Martyn), and this is largely an Indian domestic event, so there's no real loss in picking Henderson. Besides, he's a better pick than some regular internationals who are not cut out for T20.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
It'll be interesting to see if the new guys prevent the third edition from being yet another veterans show like last time.
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
People are going on and on about Henderson here - if they watched a bit of last summer's Twenty20 over here, they'd soon change their mind. Poor even at county level, just had a spell of rich form for a couple of years against relatively weak county attacks.
 

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