Best Bowling Attack - Tests

[Shri]

Cool story bro.

Too cool.

 

[Son Of Coco]

wat

I think our view on Swann was that he didn't have an impact on The Ashes like some predicted. Took 4 more wickets than Hauritz, but @ 40 a piece compared to 32 for Hauritz. Given a lot of Australian supporters didn't think much of Hauritz before The Ashes started, Swann didn't exactly rise in estimations.

He can obviously bowl though. Don't think he's far and away the best spinner at the moment however. Has a wonderful set of teeth it must be said.

 

[GIMH]

Well you can hardly claim one player is better than another based on one series, otherwise Swann & Broad are better batsmen than Phil Hughes. It's all well and good dismissing some of Swann's successes as being against the Windies, but they were on some of the most bat-friendly pitches EVER EVER EVER EVER!

Swann underwhelmed a little in the Ashes but twice came through for us exactly when spinners are supposed to - i.e taking eight wickets in two Australian 4th innings chases. Hauritz bowled well in a similarish situation at Cardiff but couldn't get rid of our tailenders. Swann's stats may have been worse but his impact on the series was far more significant.

And we do play other teams than Australia...

 

[Son Of Coco]

And we do play other teams than Australia...

Yeah but I find it hard to follow England when we're not playing them. It's like having a younger brother who is your parent's favourite (let's call him 'Stuart'), when he's in front of you and you have to take notice of him you do, but when he's outside playing in the sandpit you cease to care and almost hope he slips and hurts himself.

 

[GIMH]

So what you're saying is...you have jealousy issues with the English?

 

[Uppercut]

I think our view on Swann was that he didn't have an impact on The Ashes like some predicted. Took 4 more wickets than Hauritz, but @ 40 a piece compared to 32 for Hauritz. Given a lot of Australian supporters didn't think much of Hauritz before The Ashes started, Swann didn't exactly rise in estimations.

He can obviously bowl though. Don't think he's far and away the best spinner at the moment however. Has a wonderful set of teeth it must be said.

Look at the two batting lineups they were facing tbf. Besides, that was the low point of Swann's test career and the high point of Hauritz's.

I do rate Hauritz, but Swann's definitely better. Chris Gayle to agree .

 

[GIMH]

Averaged 31 in the final four Tests as well, not that cardiff should be removed but it puts things into a bit of perspective about how he bowled after being annhilated there

 

[Son Of Coco]

So what you're saying is...you have jealousy issues with the English?

It was more that they're like your younger, less-capable yet more molly-coddled brother.

But I can see how you could interpret like that

 

[Son Of Coco]

Look at the two batting lineups they were facing tbf. Besides, that was the low point of Swann's test career and the high point of Hauritz's.

I do rate Hauritz, but Swann's definitely better. Chris Gayle to agree .

Yes, well one of those batting lineups won and one lost Let's not forget Australia's 'weakness' against spin going into the series too. Although that may have been slightly over-played.

 

[Uppercut]

Yes, well one of those batting lineups won and one lost Let's not forget Australia's 'weakness' against spin going into the series too. Although that may have been slightly over-played.

Yeah, because England have always been great players of spin. Paul Harris told me so.

 

[NZTailender]

Yeah but I find it hard to follow England when we're not playing them. It's like having a younger brother who is your parent's favourite (let's call him 'Stuart'), when he's in front of you and you have to take notice of him you do, but when he's outside playing in the sandpit you cease to care and almost hope he slips and hurts himself.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah, Ntini with 350 + test wicket is unproven.

You really are away with the fairies.

*aussie fairies, tbh..

 

[Uppercut]

How has this series impacted on people's opinions of the Pakistan attack? Do you rate it higher/lower than you did before?

I guess it depends whether you include fielding in the attack.

 

[Top_Cat]

Rate them about the same. Potentially quite good but not outstanding. Aamer is a great potential and Asif's very good but the back-up is lacking a little.

 

[Migara]

Rate them about the same. Potentially quite good but not outstanding. Aamer is a great potential and Asif's very good but the back-up is lacking a little.

Who are supposed to be outstanding?

 

[age_master]

Rate them about the same. Potentially quite good but not outstanding. Aamer is a great potential and Asif's very good but the back-up is lacking a little.

I agree, better captaincy might help them too.

 

[marc71178]

Who are supposed to be outstanding?

Why does any attack have to be outstanding?

 

[Migara]

Why does any attack have to be outstanding?

I am querying about individuals

 

[marc71178]

So why respond to a comment about a whole attack then?

 

[Matt79]

Hasn't really changed my opinion. Kaneria is good. Aamer has potential. Asif is good and in the right conditions lethal. The fourth bowler is a lottery, and they're all flakey.

Down to SA and Aus for mine. Watson's current form, Haureh's improvement and Bollinger's inclusion tips it in Australia's favour IMO.