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*Official* West Indies In Australia

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
How is declaring at 520 with all your best batsmen in the shed arrogant?
Isn't it obvious? Can you not see at this stage how any extra runs scored then would have been useful? Hauritz scored 50* in the first Test, so it's not like they're useless tailenders.

Speaking of the first Test, they declared at 480. Totally disrespectful.

Yes Australia are better, but they're not great and West Indies aren't Zimbabwe.
 

SirBloody Idiot

Cricketer Of The Year
Another amazing day of cricket to be at. Doug the Rug bowled brilliantly and I think will make it tough for Siddle to get back into the side, whilst Bravo's spell was very gutsy.

Also sat in the members for the first time today. Being on the end of a "members are wankers" chant makes an interesting change.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Australia still strong favourites. But I'd so love it if West Indies won. So sick of Australia's arrogant declarations and so far they've escaped it coming back to bite them, but it will happen sooner or later. Australia aren't good enough to be treating teams with such utter disdain.
:laugh:

Yes, nothing to do with the second innings.

It might seem arrogant to an English supporter, but then anything over 400 would. :ph34r:
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Well they got Sunday and Monday off....
Yes because the Ashes runners-up are obviously so awesome that they'd manage to do that 100% of the time.

Let me guess if Australia declared at 350-2 in the first innings of a match and ended up winning by 1 run it was the right thing to do was it?

I'll be here when it comes back to bite Australia. Then it might actually seep through. It's like the child who you teach how to cross the road properly and proceeds to blindly dart across time after time because they didn't get run over the first time they did it.
 
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Mister Wright

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If you forget about the first test, this series has been great.

Might be a bit of an advertisement for more first class tour games. Or at least playing the One Day series ahead of the test match series.
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Another amazing day of cricket to be at. Doug the Rug bowled brilliantly and I think will make it tough for Siddle to get back into the side, whilst Bravo's spell was very gutsy.

Also sat in the members for the first time today. Being on the end of a "members are wankers" chant makes an interesting change.
:laugh:

That would've been interesting.

Siddle might challenge for Mitch's position :happy:
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes because the Ashes runners-up are obviously so awesome that they'd manage to do that 100% of the time.

Let me guess if Australia declared at 350-2 in the first innings of a match and ended up winning by 1 run it was the right thing to do was it?

I'll be here when it comes back to bite Australia. Then it might actually seep through. It's like the child who you teach how to cross the road properly and proceeds to blindly dart across time after time because they didn't get run over the first time they did it.
They sized up the game and did what they thought was best at the time. Nothing arrogant about it. Why are you suggesting they should take the other team's feelings into consideration when they make a declaration?

If England made 480/3, declared, and then won by an innings you'd think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You should be thanking us too that England's dream of winning The Ashes came true. Our team did at least as much towards you guys winning it as yours did.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yes because the Ashes runners-up are obviously so awesome that they'd manage to do that 100% of the time.

Let me guess if Australia declared at 350-2 in the first innings of a match and ended up winning by 1 run it was the right thing to do was it?

I'll be here when it comes back to bite Australia. Then it might actually seep through. It's like the child who you teach how to cross the road properly and proceeds to blindly dart across time after time because they didn't get run over the first time they did it.
Because 350-2 and 480-8 are strikingly similar situations....

In answer to your question though, no it wouldn't be the right thing to do, and anyone

I find it rather amusing though. Under Pontings captaincy, Australia (Ponting) has been lambasted for being overly conservative in terms of declarations, following on etc. etc. Now though, when they're being positive, and trying to keep the game moving (i.e. not letting it drag on with tail-end batsmen) against an obviously inferior team on home soil..... they're being disrespectful? Give me a break.
 

Scaly piscine

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
They sized up the game and did what they thought was best at the time. Nothing arrogant about it. Why are you suggesting they should take the other team's feelings into consideration when they make a declaration?

If England made 480/3, declared, and then won by an innings you'd think it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You should be thanking us too that England's dream of winning The Ashes came true. Our team did at least as much towards you guys winning it as yours did.
No if England made 480/3 first up and declared I'd rip them to pieces. If you think otherwise you obviously haven't followed any of my posts when England are playing. I've ripped them to pieces for declaring at something like 530 and 550 before. It achieves nothing because unless the game is going to be or already is greatly abbreviated then you will either need the extra runs later in the game or you'll win with plenty to spare so it will make no difference to the result. England declared at those totals because they're not very bright (virtually every team does it though, people don't have the brains to think it through properly and instead just side with what everyone else does). Australia do it at significantly smaller totals because they're think they're so in such a great position they won't lose because they over-rate themselves and under-rate WI. There's no other good reason for declaring as early as they've done against West Indies.
 

Johnners

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He's right SOC, he would rip them to pieces. Mind you, he'd rip them to pieces at 600/1 soooo.....
 

Migara

International Coach
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Haddin and Broad - plainly a world government conspiracy.
How many players have been banned at all over the years?
Just come out and say he's racist mate, don't hide in the coward's castle.
Why the **** Benn didn't plead guilty is beyond me. If he'd done so, bet he'd have got a fine too.
Now where are the Aussies banned by Broad? come on? why hide behind crappy comments?
 

Son Of Coco

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
No if England made 480/3 first up and declared I'd rip them to pieces. If you think otherwise you obviously haven't followed any of my posts when England are playing. I've ripped them to pieces for declaring at something like 530 and 550 before. It achieves nothing because unless the game is going to be or already is greatly abbreviated then you will either need the extra runs later in the game or you'll win with plenty to spare so it will make no difference to the result. England declared at those totals because they're not very bright (virtually every team does it though, people don't have the brains to think it through properly and instead just side with what everyone else does). Australia do it at significantly smaller totals because they're think they're so in such a great position they won't lose because they over-rate themselves and under-rate WI. There's no other good reason for declaring as early as they've done against West Indies.
I do tend to forget at times that, being English, you are a slave to that mighty God, 'The Draw' - a.k.a he who is preferable to a loss and thus must be wholly worshipped first before a victory (also know as 'a miracle') can be welcomed into the fold. Once you have danced at the alter of The Draw, if a win presents itself from inside a barrel of muddy water outside a Plymouth hovel a miracle has been born. Its disciples won't know how to celebrate it correctly though knowing it's inevitably likely to result in stables being razed to the ground, men killed, women being run out of town (lets call it 'Adelaide') and horses raped the next time the two teams meet, such is the ferocity of the vengance likely to be laid at the feet of those who worship 'The Draw' when such thinking goes (as it inevitably does) horribly wrong.

And yes...I do know we lost The Ashes, but it's just no fun dwelling on it. :happy:
 
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