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Anyone else sick of reading how Clarke was voted most overrated player?

It doesn't make sense at all linking the fans/media or whoever voted when the Test season is on, they should have waited until he comes out to bat as skipper in the T20.

I haven't heard any say he's over-rated in Test Cricket.
 

Nate

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Hope he doesn't get too focused on beating the gun, as opposed to the bat. Has massive potential.
Just a rubbish, agenda-based article. If you watch the full interview, he says again and again how he just wants to take wickets and how much more important that is to him than pace.
 
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Just a rubbish, agenda-based article. If you watch the full interview, he says again and again how he just wants to take wickets and how much more important that is to him than pace.
Haha, Lee used to say the exact same thing before throwing down a heap of fast rubbish. It remains to be seen, of course, but history suggests a 21-year-old quick with the pace of a slow tornado will walk away from the game happy if he cracks a couple of skulls if he doesn't take a solitary pole.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Maybe he should focus on taking wickets first.
You speak as though he hasn't been one of the best bowlers on either side this series. He's bowled magnificently, almost unerringly, without success. Good pace, movement and accuracy. It's been the best performance by a West Indies paceman in Australia since Mervyn Dillon. That doesn't say much, but it says that this isn't Daren Powell talking about bowling fast. This is actually a bowler who's demonstrated he can bowl.

That and he was almost certainly taken out of context.
 

Prince EWS

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You speak as though he hasn't been one of the best bowlers on either side this series. He's bowled magnificently, almost unerringly, without success. Good pace, movement and accuracy. It's been the best performance by a West Indies paceman in Australia since Mervyn Dillon. That doesn't say much, but it says that this isn't Daren Powell talking about bowling fast. This is actually a bowler who's demonstrated he can bowl.

That and he was almost certainly taken out of context.
I was more responding to Howsie's reaction than Roach's actual statement.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Takes me back to Michael Holding in the 1975-6 series.
You're older than I realized.

As for that example, it's not quite the same. Holding was literally JUST starting out and trying to bowl fast from the start. Roach has established himself in the team. And, of course, that "trap" went on to teach Holding how to become one of the finest fastman.
 

shivfan

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You're older than I realized.

As for that example, it's not quite the same. Holding was literally JUST starting out and trying to bowl fast from the start. Roach has established himself in the team. And, of course, that "trap" went on to teach Holding how to become one of the finest fastman.
I was just a kid in those days, only just becoming interested in cricket....
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Were you around then?

Yeah, Holding learnt a lot from that tour, as well as Lloyd, Richards, Greenidge, etc. HOpefully, Roach will know his history, and won't be condemned to repeat those mistakes.

I now see where you guys say that the particular statement in question was taken out of context, so hopefully that should augur well for the Perth Test....
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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Were you around then?
I was just a dream in my mother's heart. She was 14.
Yeah, Holding learnt a lot from that tour, as well as Lloyd, Richards, Greenidge, etc. HOpefully, Roach will know his history, and won't be condemned to repeat those mistakes.
I don't think he will lose his head, line and length in search of pace. But if he does, he seems smart enough to learn a lesson from it. He's bowled so well in his short career to date, celebrating every wicket with a kiss of the badge. He looks the real deal, with some guidance and attacking support.
 

Mr Mxyzptlk

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I was born in 1987 and my earliest memory of following cricket is of primary school, when classes were stopped to follow the tail-end of Lara's 375 on the radio.

My first memory of watching/being interested in cricket is of the 1998/99 5-0 & 6-1 thrashing in South Africa. I watched every match, then carried my interest into the most affective cricket series I've experienced - Australia in West Indies. And I was hooked.

But perhaps my most enduring experience of West Indies cricket is reading Michael Manley's "A History Of West Indies Cricket." Definitely the most comprehensive piece of literature I've read cover to cover twice.
 

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