A Resurgence Of The West Indies?

[Uppercut]

Cobbling together a few good players to make a team that will be reasonably competitive (when key players are fit) for the next few years isn't really what we had in mind when we originally considered whether there'd be a resurgence. Definitely helps, though.

 

[pasag]

Samuels coming back into the middle order should be interesting as well.

 

[aussie]

Dont rate Taylor very highly, hes more of a honest bowler than he is a match winner.

Ponting would disagree on the rating part. But i do agree Taylor doesn't look like a bowler who would get you big hauls.

Granted hes still young and has some time left, that attack is more or less decent without really sending too many shivers down people's panic bones.

Roach looks scary. Bowling 150 ks without much effort. Would be shocked if he doesn't kick on tbh.

I think this thread is too early to bump, WI just got thrashed in England and were hammered in the first test. They struggled to bowl Australia out for under 450 in the first innings and the bowling attack that you rate highly has never even played a game together, so this resurgence is more hypothetical than being based on fact.

Technically yes. But Taylor & Edwards have proven in last 12-18 months that they are test quality, plus Bravo is very clever bowler. Add Roach to mix & even without playing a test together yet, its the best WI bowling attack since Ambrose/Walsh retired easily.

 

[Furball]

Cobbling together a few good players to make a team that will be reasonably competitive (when key players are fit) for the next few years isn't really what we had in mind when we originally considered whether there'd be a resurgence. Definitely helps, though.

You have to walk before you can run.

 

[Top_Cat]

You have to walk before you can run.

Been hearing that for 10 years, tbh.

 

[Furball]

Been hearing that for 10 years, tbh.

Yeah, but for the last 10 years the Windies have barely been above the standard of Bangladesh, to be brutally honest.

If with the emergence of players like Roach and Barath, the Windies can progress to being a genuinely competitive Test side, then that would definitely be a major step forward.

 

[Top_Cat]

Yeah, but for the last 10 years the Windies have barely been above the standard of Bangladesh, to be brutally honest.

If with the emergence of players like Roach and Barath, the Windies can progress to being a genuinely competitive Test side, then that would definitely be a major step forward.

I don't mean to just piss all over your point but, again, we heard the same things when Sarwan, Gayle, etc. first played Tests. 'Leaders of the new generation of WI talent', etc.

The only difference is Roach, really. He's the first genuinely exciting fast bowling prospect to come out of the region for years. Another one like him, another batsman and maybe things will get interesting.

 

[Athlai]

Edwards is their best bowler in the last year or two IMO. Taylor the close second.

An attack of Edwards, Taylor, Roach, Benn(not that important to me) and Bravo is right up there in current Test attacks.

If Barath continues his good start they also have a pretty good full strength batting lineup.

Unfortunately the WI second XI would be one of the weakest in world cricket, full strength and they could run anyone to a close finish.

 

[aussie]

I don't mean to just piss all over your point but, again, we heard the same things when Sarwan, Gayle, etc. first played Tests. 'Leaders of the new generation of WI talent', etc.

Always saaw Gayle as a slogger since way back in 2000 tbh. Sarwan well yea, he probably hasn't lived up to his early hype in test a least, since in ODIs his ability to finish an innings was Bevanesque on many occassions.

 

[Pothas]

Dont rate Taylor very highly, hes more of a honest bowler than he is a match winner. Granted hes still young and has some time left, that attack is more or less decent without really sending too many shivers down people's panic bones.

I think this thread is too early to bump, WI just got thrashed in England and were hammered in the first test. They struggled to bowl Australia out for under 450 in the first innings and the bowling attack that you rate highly has never even played a game together, so this resurgence is more hypothetical than being based on fact.

Yeah it is very early days but they really did not want to be in England and I don't think it was a fair representation of their overall ability. The strike seems to have done some good and there is a basis of a pretty competative side there, whether that will be realised or not is pretty difficult to tell still.

 

[NasserFan207]

If they could get their full strength team togethor, and start playing with more confidence and purpose, AND sort out the atrocious administration system, then they could well enjoy a more successfull period.

 

[Pratters]

Samuels coming back into the middle order should be interesting as well.

Yeah. Has always had the talent.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

Dont rate Taylor very highly, hes more of a honest bowler than he is a match winner. Granted hes still young and has some time left, that attack is more or less decent without really sending too many shivers down people's panic bones.

I think this thread is too early to bump, WI just got thrashed in England and were hammered in the first test.

Did you miss the series just prior to that, England in WI?

1st Test: West Indies v England at Kingston, Feb 4-7, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

If that's not a match winning performance, what is?
Taylor sending Pietersen's stumps cartwheeling was an awesome sight.

 

[SJS]

This ( the recent series against Australia) is not a sign of West Indian resurgence. It is more a sign of how the mighty have fallen.

 

[Pratters]

This ( the recent series against Australia) is not a sign of West Indian resurgence. It is more a sign of how the mighty have fallen.

I think it is a bit of both.

 

[roseboy64]

Yep, over the last couple years we've improved.

 

[Son Of Coco]

I think it is a bit of both.

Yeah I agree, Australia have embraced the unparalleled beauty of a full on batting collapse this year unlike previous years when they had the likes of Waugh, Gilchrist, Martyn etc etc. On the other hand I think the WI definitely show some promising signs of improvement.

What I've liked most about the efforts of guys like Gayle, Bravo, Roach, Dowlin, even Benn, in this series is that they've stood up at different times and got stuck in. And there's been some passion there to match their efforts. They want to win matches, and with a bit of luck and all their players in the side they have a decent chance of producing some results.

 

[Pratters]

I think the current Australia - West Indies series will end 1-1. Then, I think Australia will win the series v Pakistan. Does that mean West Indies>Pakistan? Not really as they have to string in more performances to get such a ranking. However, one thing is for certain, they have become competitive again, which is a great thing for international cricket.

 

[WindieWeathers]

This ( the recent series against Australia) is not a sign of West Indian resurgence. It is more a sign of how the mighty have fallen.

Well of course the Aussies aren't as good as they used to be, that was evident in the last Ashes but despite all that it's still a very difficult task to win in their backyard imo, and when you consider the amount of injuries WI have got then this performance looks even better, i think it's clear there's some extremely good players in our side, and this year we've managed to make two top sides look very average (England at home and this current test against Australia) so i think it's obvious we're improving, and now there seems to be some very decent young talent coming through too, Roach, Barath, Deonarine, Pollard, Darren Bravo all look like they could take WI forward imo.

 

[shivfan]

Well of course the Aussies aren't as good as they used to be, that was evident in the last Ashes but despite all that it's still a very difficult task to win in their backyard imo, and when you consider the amount of injuries WI have got then this performance looks even better, i think it's clear there's some extremely good players in our side, and this year we've managed to make two top sides look very average (England at home and this current test against Australia) so i think it's obvious we're improving, and now there seems to be some very decent young talent coming through too, Roach, Barath, Deonarine, Pollard, Darren Bravo all look like they could take WI forward imo.

Well said....

In the past, there were vacancies in the XI. Now, we finally have competition for places from genuine contenders. Deonarine and Dowlin are in competition, Roach is putting pressure on Taylor to perform, etc.

It augurs well for the future....