Not entirely fair, think you are underestimating the influence that they both had on their respective clubs. Zola might well be the best player I have seen live, between him and Drogba but so different that it is hard to compare. Know I would have Drogba in my side though although I don't want that to be true.
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Jarquis
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Just can't bring yourself to admit he's right?No comment.
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Hmm. Henry, but he was awesome as part of a particular Arsenal side that played a certain way. In any of the other 19 clubs, he wouldn't be anywhere near as effective. I suspect that Cristiano Ronaldo could walk into any team and improve them more than Henry could, but in terms of their respective outputs in the teams that they did play, Henry was better.
Those aren't the players I'd call the "best" though, in that they're not the players I'd most want in my team. Keane and Vieira would always be the first players I'd look to build a championship-winning side around.
Those aren't the players I'd call the "best" though, in that they're not the players I'd most want in my team. Keane and Vieira would always be the first players I'd look to build a championship-winning side around.
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Yeah, in hindsight it sounded like I was saying they weren't useful as footballers. They absolutely were both great players, but in terms of how skillful and impressive they were, they're two of the best ever, whereas in terms of output, they're way down the list.
Personally I'd quite like to play against Bergkamp as a centre-back. Henry is a nightmare scenario.
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This is pretty much the point I was making about Bergkamp to be honest, arguably without Bergkamp playing behind him and without Pires backing him up on the left handside Henry wouldn't have been as greater success as he was. In my opinion anyway.
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Haha, no, I really mean "no comment". I was too young during Cantona's career to comment on it with any sense of perspective. I could say that Cantona's impact on United was greater than Bergkamp's on Arsenal, but that's not the same thing.Just can't bring yourself to admit he's right?
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Arguably. It's a team game. But Henry did play a significant proportion of matches with Bergkamp not in the team, and he was still ****ing awesome.
The whole team was built around him though. Can you imagine him playing for someone like the Chelsea of today? It just wouldn't really work.
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Henry was scoring goals, dribbling teams from the half-way line to the box. As great as some of his teammates were, he was undoubtedly better.
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Was in jest
Maybe, Vieria might be my first pick but you need a great striker, I know one of the very first players I would buy for a side looking to avoid relegation (in realms of pure fantasy) would be one of Shearer or Drogba, they could function well in pretty much any side no matter what the ability of the other players.
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Yeah, same here. The Alan Shearer of Blackburn is the best striker of the Premiership era for mine. Could win the ball in the air, hold it up on the ground, play with his back to goal and run in behind with plenty of pace- not to mention his 112 goals in 138 games.
If I'm trying to build a top-class team though, it's Keane or Vieira. There's a ruthless, winning culture embodied by those two players that no other team had in the period '96-'04. Liverpool had all kinds of quality in the mid-late 90s, as did Newcastle, but they seriously lacked a Keane or Vieira. Someone who just refused to let the side lose. Those are the players that make the difference between the top-class teams and the top-class teams who win titles.
The closest player to either in the Premiership at the moment is Michael Essien. Awesome footballer.
Jarquis
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Only player for United/Chelsea/Tottenham/Liverpool who I like more than I hate
Even the fact he plays for Chelsea isn't enough to out me off him, great player and a great guy from some of the interviews I've seen him give. Remember one specifically with Gabby Logan on Sports Insight. WAG.
Yeah Essien is great, had the privelege of seeing him at Griffin Park a couple of years ago (playing for Ghana and not Brentford unfortunatly) was certainly the best player I have seen on that ground.
Proof that Ronaldo will never forget how to be a great player http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVyLmas6tUw
Outside chance of making the World Cup? Is unlikely but could be an amazing final chapter in a bizzare, frustrating but wonderfull career.
Proof that Ronaldo will never forget how to be a great player http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVyLmas6tUw
Outside chance of making the World Cup? Is unlikely but could be an amazing final chapter in a bizzare, frustrating but wonderfull career.
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marc71178
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Young's missed his chance IMO - Milner's ahead of him for one (and Joe Cole would be assuming he remains fit)
sledger
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Would love to see it. Unfortunately I think his fitness (or lack of) would be exposed against a good international defence, as it appears from that footage he is the heaviest he has ever been, and not as young as he once was...but....as shown by the video, put him in front of the goal with the ball and he'll put it away.
Yeah it is very unlikely, Dunga seems to be a pretty practical coach would not expect him to bow down to popular sentiment, would love so much if he made though, four years after being subject to such ridicule, think he is pretty happy scoring for Corinthians, we certainly will not see him in Europe again.