aussie
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Both deserved to be picked. If the selectors want to give talented young Barath the chance to open, just in case he fails - Simmons should be in the squad as back-up.
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*Official* West Indies In Australia
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DIRK-NANNES
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shivfan
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It would be foolhardy to omit Edwards if he is fit....
Sure, he might struggle to get into an Aussie team, but right now he's arguably the best WI pacer around, a title he occasionally shares with Taylor. It would be very silly to drop him, and replace him with Tonge, on the basis of just a couple of home Tests against Bangladesh, both of which the WI lost.
But the fact is that he's unfit, and the WIndies will have to make do without him....
As for Dowlin, seriously, what has he done to merit selection ahead of Simmons? I'd love to know....
Sure, he might struggle to get into an Aussie team, but right now he's arguably the best WI pacer around, a title he occasionally shares with Taylor. It would be very silly to drop him, and replace him with Tonge, on the basis of just a couple of home Tests against Bangladesh, both of which the WI lost.
But the fact is that he's unfit, and the WIndies will have to make do without him....
As for Dowlin, seriously, what has he done to merit selection ahead of Simmons? I'd love to know....
Woodster
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It's a shame Fidel has not managed to regain his fitness ahead of this Australia tour, his pace and fire would certainly have caused one or two problems for the Aussie batsmen, if not consistently, then I'm sure he'd have delivered a few tasty spells.
I'm surprised Lendl Simmons has been thrown aside already, he showed enough promise against England to suggest he should be persevered with, but apparently not.
Are there any spinners mentioned in this thread that are seriously good enough to trouble the Australia side ? The likes of Ponting, Hussey, Clarke etc, do play spin very well and I would question that unless it is an absolute turner, is there is a necessity for a specialist spinner to be selected at all. By selecting an extra batsmen it gives the line-up a bit more depth, and the likes of Gayle, Nash (could have used Simmons or Hinds.R. also) etc could be used a little more as part-timers.
I'm surprised Lendl Simmons has been thrown aside already, he showed enough promise against England to suggest he should be persevered with, but apparently not.
Are there any spinners mentioned in this thread that are seriously good enough to trouble the Australia side ? The likes of Ponting, Hussey, Clarke etc, do play spin very well and I would question that unless it is an absolute turner, is there is a necessity for a specialist spinner to be selected at all. By selecting an extra batsmen it gives the line-up a bit more depth, and the likes of Gayle, Nash (could have used Simmons or Hinds.R. also) etc could be used a little more as part-timers.
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Well you kinda have to balance that against the fact that the most successful bowlers in the West Indies these days are almost invariably spinners. Gavin Tonge was actually the only quick in the top eleven wicket takers in the West Indies' FC cricket last season.
Notorious1
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Fidel Edwards injured again, WTH?
Notorious1
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Even when WI have been doing badly they have had some quality players but they just can't seem to put it all together and do well consistently.
their bowlers still have the pace but lack the discipline.
their bowlers still have the pace but lack the discipline.
howardj
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Lee should not be in the side.
CHeck out his Test performances last Summer against India and South Africa.
Furthermore, he is injury prone.
Hauritz in for Clark.
Hughes in for Hussey.
aussie
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Yes he played those test match injured, so you use that as a guide. His recent bowling form in ODIs clealry proves he is ready to go right back into the test XI & take the new-ball with Hilfy.
He is getting the odd injury here & there, but his injury woes aren't of the Bond or Watson level - so i wont put him in the "injury prone" bracket just yet. This recent injury clearly was due to too much cricket too quickly, even Siddle got injured.
4-seamers should always play from now on in tests - since thats the bowling strenght. AUS selectors have wasted enough since WI 08 not doing this.
Not yet. Hussey earned the right keep his place after the Oval hundred. Although if Watson doesn't the most of his time opening soon, Hughes should come right back in.
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Hmmmm. On one hand, he had a few bad games a year ago. On the other hand, he's absolutely ****ing awesome and one of the best bowlers around. Get him in the team ASAP.
howardj
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The big flaw in that argument is that he destroyed the NZ lineup in the 2 Tests smack bang in the middle of the two aforementioned series. He showed no signs of injury then - rather, he was up against a popgun batting line up.
howardj
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He is not mate.
When will anyone look at this man's stats rather than his looks and his spin?
Johnners
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Would bring Lee in for Hiflenhaus in a flash. Unfortunately, I doubt the selectors will see it that way given he was the best bowler in England. I think it's becoming glaringly obvoius that Clarks international career is all but over, and won't be surprised if the only change to the first test lineup (pending injuries of course) is Hauritz in for Clark.
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Siddle should surely be the man to make way for Lee. He's a very good bowler but the fact is that there are currently three better quicks than him in the country.
I wouldn't write off Hilfenhaus in Australia. He's a lot faster than the way people talk about him would have you believe (possibly compounded by his conservative use of the bouncer). Any bowler with his level of pace and accuracy with a hint of outswing can certainly expect success in test cricket.
I wouldn't write off Hilfenhaus in Australia. He's a lot faster than the way people talk about him would have you believe (possibly compounded by his conservative use of the bouncer). Any bowler with his level of pace and accuracy with a hint of outswing can certainly expect success in test cricket.