Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Praveen is a lock in the ODI squad for the next 2-3 years. I have said it before and I will say it again.
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*Official* Australia in India - ODIs
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four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
And it was so nice the last few weeks on here with Watto getting a bit of love.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Dew. Dhoni said he would have bowled first too, so you can't blame Ricky for that.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
Why can't you blame Ricky? They were both wrong.
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
14.3
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, Three in a row. Husseeeyyyyyyyy. It was short in length, quicker, flatter and Hussey unfurls a fine crunchy cut shot
Harbhajan goes round the stumps. No slip now
14.2
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, on a length, turns away from Hussey who goes right back to cut it past point. It landed just outside off and spun away further
14.1
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, overpitched outside off stump and Hussey crashes it through the off-side field.
HEY HEY HEY HEY
NA NA NA
GOODBYE!
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, Three in a row. Husseeeyyyyyyyy. It was short in length, quicker, flatter and Hussey unfurls a fine crunchy cut shot
Harbhajan goes round the stumps. No slip now
14.2
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, on a length, turns away from Hussey who goes right back to cut it past point. It landed just outside off and spun away further
14.1
Harbhajan Singh to Hussey, FOUR, overpitched outside off stump and Hussey crashes it through the off-side field.
HEY HEY HEY HEY
NA NA NA
GOODBYE!
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Why?
Jungle Jumbo
International Vice-Captain
Just because two people answer the same question wrong doesn't absolve them of the mistake.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
I don't disagree with that, but you have to consider that he may have been liable for the chop after his performance in the last game.
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Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
No he should not have been dropped after the last game. Just because a batsman scores a duck, you don't drop him.
Edit - I know that example isn't accurate. Should say had one bad game
One bad game where major technical flaws were shown up? Then sure but the only problem with Praveen seemed to be he (and India collectively if I am not wrong) bowled badly at the death and he got a few edges which went for fours (from what I read of Dhoni's statement, I didn't watch the last game). You shouldn't be dropped just because you bowled poorly at the death in one game or you are a poor death bowler. You can bowl at other times.
Edit - I know that example isn't accurate. Should say had one bad game
One bad game where major technical flaws were shown up? Then sure but the only problem with Praveen seemed to be he (and India collectively if I am not wrong) bowled badly at the death and he got a few edges which went for fours (from what I read of Dhoni's statement, I didn't watch the last game). You shouldn't be dropped just because you bowled poorly at the death in one game or you are a poor death bowler. You can bowl at other times.
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Jarquis
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You'd consider it if it came off 33 balls though.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
No, but Praveen was in the team in order to create a strategy of three pace bowlers, two spinners and hence, five bowlers - a strategy which I disagree with in Indian conditions. This is a policy which requires that your bowlers each perform at a high level in order to justify their selection over a specialist batsman combined with the effect of a part timer. Perhaps more than one ODI should have been given for a player, even in this situation, but when you are trialling an unusual strategy, you must be willing to abandon it, in the name of pragmatism.
As it turns out, I was pretty much wrong in all of my selectorial comments regarding this series, so far, and so I'll happily retract anything negative I have said about the inclusion of either Praveen or Ishant, who is looking more like his old self than before, cranking up the pace and bowling good lines.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
That is true.. As a matter of fact, there was an edge off Paine that SHOULD have been taken by Sachin at first slip diving to his left. It was a toughie but one that MOST slip fielders would be expected to take.. Was covered up completely by the commentators and the media, perhaps because it was Sachin...
Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
So what do you do? One bowler has a bad game and you drop him? That is certainly not giving your strategy enough time regardless of whether it is right or wrong.
Also, Praveen Kumar can bat as well as bowl. He is a huge asset in the ODI team regardless of whether they go with 2 pacers or 3 pacers, he should be lock in in the ODI team.
He has an economy rate of 4.8 and is perfectly suited for the ODI game. He is not as erratic that many times as say Munaf used to be (which Munaf has improved upon which is why he is back in the side as well by the way).
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Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Praveen was coming off a poor run though in which he took just 2 wickets in the five games prior to the bashing of West Indies 'B'. This is what I considered when thinking he should be liable to the drop - it is not as if we had three locks going in to the series to which the three pacer strategy became obvious. However, I have not considered numerous factors in my previous selection comments and therefore must note them void. Things like not considering the part time spinners rendering an extra spinner of less use than an extra pace bowler seem obvious now, but I did not consider them.
As a side note, not convinced about Praveen's batting at international level, despite his success for UP and India 'A' (especially in that Tri Series against Sri Lanka A and Kenya).
His overall economy rate hides the fact that he can be very poor and he can be very good (so it averages out) - but I will end the argument about Praveen Kumar, as he has justified his inclusion for this match with a fine spell of swing.
Still unsure about Munaf's inclusion in the side, it comes off the back of an Irani Trophy performance which should not really be considered and one Challenger Trophy performance which should have given more credit to Tyagi, then it did to him.