Truth sucks, like Patel and head dropper, no swing, over pitcher.
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**Official** New Zealand v Pakistan in UAE
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Howsie
International Captain
Vettori keen to push McCullum down the order | Cricket News | Pakistan v New Zealand 2009/10 | Cricinfo.com
So as soon as Ryder get's back then?
So as soon as Ryder get's back then?
Athlai
Not Terrible
Dire.
James
Cricket Web Owner
Good move I reckon.
Howsie
International Captain
We could keep Martin Guptill there for awhile, though I'm not really in favour of him playing at three. I wouldn't mind seeing Watling, Broom or even Flynn being given a run there tbh.
James
Cricket Web Owner
Would guess something like this when everyone is fit:
Ryder
Guptill
Taylor
Styris
Elliott
Vettori
B McCullum
Franklin
Mills
Bond
Tuffey
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James
Cricket Web Owner
Agree with you there, would rather see him at 5 myself.
Couldn't we turn Elliott into our number 3?
Howsie
International Captain
Perhaps. But how would Elliott's innings go? He usually get's going by scoring 15-20 of 25-30 odd balls, coming in early will make scoring singles a little more difficult.
I'd like to see:
Ryder
Guptill
Broom/Flynn
Elliott
Taylor
Vettori
Oram
McCullum
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Styris at 3 IMO. He has an awesome Test record at 3 IIRC; not sure about his ODI record there but he did well at 4.. I think he'd be fine there.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Have to say I never realized we had so many Kiwis on the forums.
nightprowler10
Global Moderator
Seems the PCB is unsure if Asif will be allowed to play in the UAE.
Flem274*
123/5
Its more the fact we never shut up because even if our eleven is pretty much nailed down, someone still finds an issue somewhere.
In this case some of our better batsmen are injured, so we're in talking overdrive.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Good team. Asif and Aamir will make a formidable pairing and Umar Gul can do a good job if used mostly at the death. Ajmal and Afridi are a strong partnership in the middle overs too. I do feel that Rana Naved is 'past it' though, his slower balls may be able to pick up wickets but I don't think that he has the pace that he once had to generate enough wickets to justify his often expensive spells.
I do not think Talha is ready for another chance, despite obvious potential and news from cricinfo that he is working hard on his run up, I don't think that his domestic performances justify ODI selection. He only has 35 OD wickets at 33.88 with an economy of 5.94, which is quite poor. He may have performed well for the A team in Sri Lanka, but I do not think that it is enough to defend his selection, considering form previous to that.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Can imagine McCullum's ego taking that pretty hard, as he doesn't like to be seen to take a step back. Could be a good move - I guess we'll wait and see. Personally was more in favour of pushing Ryder down the order instead.
The other interesting thing from that article was this:
From that I gather that Elliott is likely to be preferred to Franklin for that number 6 & 5th/6th bowler spot in tests. Interesting. Though I guess both may play against Pakistan if Ryder still injured.
Howsie
International Captain
Unless Franklin is going to bowl atleast 130K and look like taking a wicket he shouldn't be in the test team imo. As for Ryder playing as the 5th bowler, best thing for the team balance I reckon, it just allows us to bat really deep.