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*Official* English Football Season 2009-2010

marc71178

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But Fabio has got the mid-field formula is working so well. No need to change it.
Except when it can be improved, which I think Joe Cole considerably does.

I personally would start Cole as part of a 4-3-3 formationt with Rooney in the centre & Theo on the right. But of course Capello aint gonna let Rooney play alone up front.
Wonder if that'd be because he can't do it anywhere near as well as he can when he plays next to/with someone - ie Heskey.
 

aussie

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Except when it can be improved, which I think Joe Cole considerably does.
I want J Cole to start. But i'm not sure if it should be at the expense of Lamps.

Stevie G should be given a free role for ENG just like he has at liverpool. Thats why i dont mid him playing out left instead of next to Barry in mid-field.




Wonder if that'd be because he can't do it anywhere near as well as he can when he plays next to/with someone - ie Heskey.
Yes. Plus the fact he is our only goal-scorer & playing him as a lone striker would risk injury & ENG cant afford that. But along with Villa he is one short striker than can play alone up front effectively.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Nah. Or are you kidding? :unsure:

Walcott, in any event. Lennon's delivery, whilst improved, is still pretty average.
Neither Cole or Walcott are anywhere near match sharpness tbh, I wouldn't pick either of them as definite starters at the moment, we'll see how they do I suppose.
 

aussie

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David Beckham's miles and miles better than any of them. Still.
Ha nah. Becks roles are quality impact sub & MAYBE as a central mid-fielder, where his passing game could make him useful deep-lying playmaker as he was doing for Milan recently.
 

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It seems utterly bizarre to me that I may have to argue a case for why David Beckham is a better player than Theo ****ing Walcott.
 

sledger

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It seems utterly bizarre to me that I may have to argue a case for why David Beckham is a better player than Theo ****ing Walcott.
In this case "Better" does not equate to "best man for the job" imho. Though I am very much in favour of Beckham remaining in the England side, I feel he would be best used as a sub.
 

sledger

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Well, a "winger" for mine should always be fast, have quick feet, and be able to take people on with the ball at his feet. However, playing on the side of midfield does not automatically make you a winger by any stretch, as indeed, I would never have said Beckham was a winger per se.The current England side does not have an abundance of pace in the midfield or up front, so this is why I would opt for Walcott over Beckham more often than not.
 

Pothas

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It seems utterly bizarre to me that I may have to argue a case for why David Beckham is a better player than Theo ****ing Walcott.
Yes but you do have to make a pretty strong argument for him being a better player than Joe Cole in the last few years.
 

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Yes but you do have to make a pretty strong argument for him being a better player than Joe Cole in the last few years.
Joe Cole's had fitness issues so it's hard to know exactly what form he'll be in come the World Cup, but in any case, he's your left-winger surely?
 

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Well, a "winger" for mine should always be fast, have quick feet, and be able to take people on with the ball at his feet. However, playing on the side of midfield does not automatically make you a winger by any stretch, as indeed, I would never have said Beckham was a winger per se.The current England side does not have an abundance of pace in the midfield or up front, so this is why I would opt for Walcott over Beckham more often than not.
I'm all for picking the players to suit the team, but the two options are so ridiculously far apart in terms of class it's not even funny. Besides, I've seen no evidence that England are going to adopt any particular style of play that justifies Walcott being included in the team ahead of Beckham. Maybe if you were picking the Arsenal team your point would be more valid.
 

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Joe Cole's had fitness issues so it's hard to know exactly what form he'll be in come the World Cup, but in any case, he's your left-winger surely?
Would have thought so but I got the impression that you were arguing that Beckham was clearly a better player than him which before his injuries is a pretty hard one to argue. Hope he recovers because he had developed into a genuinely good player.
 

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Incidentally, as of today Arsene Wenger celebrates 13 years and one day in charge of Arsenal, making him the Gunners' longest serving boss ever.

Congratulations to the man, a credit to the club and to the game, one of the all time greats.
Well in that man. ****ing legend.
 

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Would have thought so but I got the impression that you were arguing that Beckham was clearly a better player than him which before his injuries is a pretty hard one to argue. Hope he recovers because he had developed into a genuinely good player.
Yeah, Joe Cole was really good for Chelsea for a little while. Theo Walcott ahead of Beckham though? Taking the piss IMO.
 

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Ah, I forgot, David Beckham was always going to fade horribly in old age with a game so reliant on his natural pace. That's why his performances for AC Milan last season were so poor.

:dry:
 

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Can't believe people are arguing for Beckham of Walcott. It's not even ****ing close. Seems like people have forgotten how effective Theo was before he got injured.

Walcott is leagues better. Not that they're that comparable anyway, Walcott will score plenty of goals and frighten any defence with his pace - that sort of threat is crucial at international level. Beckham will just zimmerframe around midfield and hit good passes and be woeful from dead ball situations.
 

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Walcott will score plenty of goals
Has scored a grand total of 19, tbh, five of them for Southampton. 6 Premiership goals in his four years at Arsenal. In Beckham's 8-year career in the United first team, he never once failed to score six league goals in a season.

He scored a hat-trick for England once, and English people don't watch much Italian or American soccer, so Theo's the natural choice I guess.
 

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