ICC awards 2009

[Son Of Coco]

Johnson shouldn't get any award, bottled it in the biggest series of his career*

*maybe not the biggest as some would say the SA series were 1 V 2 (well, everyone would say they were, because, um, they were) but everyone knows Aussies care about the Ashes as much as we do (far more soul searching going on now than any other Aussie defeat I've experienced)

I think some of the soul-searching certainly comes from the fact it was The Ashes, but also because we lost to a team that we feel we could have beaten. Losses to SA or India are probably not reflected on quite so much due to the obvious quality of both teams.

As for the awards:

Prom Queen - Stuart Broad

Actually, if he keeps up his decent form he might find himself up for one next year. An award that is.

 

[GIMH]

BBC SPORT | Cricket | Strauss shortlisted for ICC award

Shortlist announced. Strauss, Johnson, Gambhir & Dhoni on the shortlist for cricket of the year. Take Dhoni off and add Samaraweera and you have the Test shortlist.

Mortified that Rudi isn't nominated for umpire of the year

 

[TT Boy]

No de Villiers is truly bizarre.

And what's with the Emerging Players award? Ben Hilfenhaus is the wrong side of 26, Ryder has been playing international cricket for coming on eighteen months whilst Onions has played all of five test matches and is 27!

 

[S.P. Fleming]

New Zealand for the Spirit of cricket award!

 

[Burgey]

New Zealand for the Spirit of cricket award!

Oxymoron, tbf.

 

[Kensashi]

Dhoni averaged 60 odd in ODIs last year. He should get the ODI player of the year award imo. Either Abdv or Gambhir for test player of the year. Both of 'em have averaged over 70 in tests.

On that note, Samaraweera has averaged 82 in tests with a few double hundreds, if I'm not mistaken!

 

[pup11]

No de Villiers is truly bizarre.

And what's with the Emerging Players award? Ben Hilfenhaus is the wrong side of 26, Ryder has been playing international cricket for coming on eighteen months whilst Onions has played all of five test matches and is 27!

Emerging players award, doesn't say that the player has gotta be a 19 year old or anything to be eligible for this award, its given to blokes who are new to the international scene.

Though, I totally agree that De Villers should have been a serious contender for the ICC cricketer of the year award, as he has been terrific in virtually all three formats of the game in the last one year, but the fact that he isn't even nominated is pretty ridiculous.

Anyways, out of the players that have been nominated, I think these are the bloke who should win the following awards:

Cricketer of the Year:Gautam Gambhir
Test Player of the Year:Thilan Samaraweera / Andrew Strauss
ODI Player of the Year:Yuvraj Singh
Emerging Player of the Year:Peter Siddle
Twenty20 International Performance of the Year:Tillakaratne Dilshan 96 off 57 balls v West Indies

 

[TT Boy]

Hilfenhaus debuted internationally early 2007. Two and half years ago....

And if you then go by the logic of just recently being a recent first teamer like in Hilfenhaus' case than you might as give JP Duminy the award - as he has only been a full-time fixture for the past twelve months despite debuting a full five years ago.

 

[Marius]

South Africa is the best Test and ODI side in the world, yet we don't have one player in any category.

It is an absolute disgrace.

WTF?

 

[BoyBrumby]

Before the Ashes Johnson must've been nailed on, but now? Still the leading wicket taker for the period tho.

Would seem odd giving it to a bloke who was a pretty huge disappointment in the biggest series he played.

Gambhir for my money. Been the form test batsman unquestionably.

 

[andyc]

Before the Ashes Johnson must've been nailed on, but now? Still the leading wicket taker for the period tho.

Would seem odd giving it to a bloke who was a pretty huge disappointment in the biggest series he played.

Gambhir for my money. Been the form test batsman unquestionably.

It's only meant to go this July though, isn't it?

 

[GIMH]

No, 24th August, i.e the end of the Ashes (I was wrong in the OP)

 

[Briony]

Hilfenhaus debuted internationally early 2007. Two and half years ago....

And if you then go by the logic of just recently being a recent first teamer like in Hilfenhaus' case than you might as give JP Duminy the award - as he has only been a full-time fixture for the past twelve months despite debuting a full five years ago.

Yes Duminy is unlucky not to score a mention, he is a fairly recent new star on the horizon. Hifl in contrast has taken a long time to emerge.

 

[oitoitoi]

International Cricketer of the year - AB de Villiers

Test player of the year - AB de Villiers

ODI player of the year - MSD

Emerging Player - Peter Siddle

20/20 performance of the year - Tillakaratne Dilshan

AWTA, though I'd probably go with Duminy ahead of Siddle, or Roelof for a laugh.



p.s. well said gerald majola: Outrage in South Africa over ICC awards | South Africa Cricket News | Cricinfo.com

Considering they just sent the Australians to their 1st home series defeat in a generation and became the no.1 test and odi side in the world, it's a bit farcical.

 

[Shri]

Originally posted by Cricinfo

"To me, it looks like the only way to get on these nomination lists is to play the Ashes," Majola told Cricinfo. "Unfortunately, our players don't play for England or Australia. That seems to be the criteria to select these awards.

 

[popepouri]

I am so puzzled that AB didn't get a mention.

 

[Faisal1985]

I guess what Majola and Mickey said today regarding the nominations pretty much sums up the importance and the transparency of these awards.

Think about it........Beating Aussies in Australia.....a guy averaging more then 70 against top notch teams did not make the short list...........what? Is AB competing against the legends????

 

[Athlai]

I guess what Majola and Mickey said today regarding the nominations pretty much sums up the importance and the transparency of these awards.

Think about it........Beating Aussies in Australia.....a guy averaging more then 70 against top notch teams did not make the short list...........what? Is AB competing against the legends????

Well lets look at who get the nod ahead of him.

Samaraweera - got shot and then scored a shed load of runs. Should definitely be there.
Strauss - won the Ashes so is worthy of getting ahead of him
Johnson - hmm... pretty debatable but when he was hot he was on fire
Gambhir - also has scored a shed load but probably could be swapped for AB

Emerging player should be Ryder in all fairness. Bloke averages 50ish in Test cricket.
Surprised Hughes didn't get a mention ahead of the likes of Onions or the been emerging for a while Aussie bowlers.

 

[Faisal1985]

Well lets look at who get the nod ahead of him.

Samaraweera - got shot and then scored a shed load of runs. Should definitely be there.
Strauss - won the Ashes so is worthy of getting ahead of him
Johnson - hmm... pretty debatable but when he was hot he was on fire
Gambhir - also has scored a shed load but probably could be swapped for AB

Emerging player should be Ryder in all fairness. Bloke averages 50ish in Test cricket.
Surprised Hughes didn't get a mention ahead of the likes of Onions or the been emerging for a while Aussie bowlers.

Samaraweera: Getting shot does not and should not get you performance awards.......so considering the time frame picked for awards he averages 82.07 in his 8 tests against Pakistan, Bangladesh, New Zealand.

Strauss: Winning the Ashes does not make him the best Test Player of the year. I hope you realize how close the Ashes was....and Freddie won the Ashes for England...as far as i am concerned...
Again in the criteria selected Strauss averages 60.13 against Australia, India and West Indies (which is pretty decent but lets see where he stands).

Ghambir: If anything Gambhir has performed above par.....averaging 84.60 against the likes of Aussies, English and Kiwis......

I am surprised to find out that after all, ICC is not a load of crape when picking players for the awards......AB scored heavily against the Australians with an average of 75......but the problem is, in the selected criteria, he played 6 tests against Australia out of his 8 total, and 2 others against Bangladesh in which he averages only 1.50 .....which essentially brought down his over all average to 60.30 ........way below Gambhir's ........

Looking at the averages, and against what oppositions they were scored.....Ladies and Gents, my pick for the Test Player of the year is Gambhir........scored heavily against 2 top Test sides....and one decent side......the only other candidate is Samaraveera who is slightly below in average then Gambhir but most of all his only decent opposition has been Pakistan (considering that Pak bowling attack is better then NZ's or Bangladesh's).

To me it will be unfair to rate anyone else other then Gambhir to be the Test player of the year.....

 

[Athlai]

Samaraweera: Getting shot does not and should not get you performance awards.......so considering the time frame picked for awards he averages 82.07 in his 8 tests against Pakistan, Bangladesh, New Zealand.

I disagree, knowing what a player has had to overcome should play a role.

Strauss: Winning the Ashes does not make him the best Test Player of the year. I hope you realize how close the Ashes was....and Freddie won the Ashes for England...as far as i am concerned...
Again in the criteria selected Strauss averages 60.13 against Australia, India and West Indies (which is pretty decent but lets see where he stands).

lol Freddy won the Ashes? Not even close. Strauss carried the English batting on his shoulders throughout the series. Flintoff sparked the bowling in one match and Broad did the same to a greater extent in a more important match.

Ghambir: If anything Gambhir has performed above par.....averaging 84.60 against the likes of Aussies, English and Kiwis......

Bashing NZ on roads is hardly that brilliant. Samaraweera played us better.