*Official* New Zealand in Sri Lanka

[Raghav]

Na toss out Patel and Oram

McCullum
Ryder
Guptill
Taylor
Elliott
Broom
McCullum2
Vettori
Mills
Tuffey
Bond

On the Spot!! Gun Selection

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

I think Dirky you will find that almost every NZ poster on this forum agreed in the Champions Trophy thread that Patel was lucky to be selected ahead of McCullum. Forgotten already?

Along with Diamanti over Franklin and Hopkins over McGlashan.

What I meant was in this thread regarding the first ODI of this weird computer-in-a-sculpture cup series, cause nobody had yet posted a squad or explictly stated they wanted Nathan over Patel for the first game
That's why I put the little footnote in the brackets

Daryl Tuffey's performance, a five-for in his only playing opportunity before he flies out to remind all of his abilities, and a chance to give other limited-overs recruits playing time were the bright spots McCullum pointed to in a warm-up defeat against a side featuring eight internationals.

There seems to be conflicting info, I was given the impression Tuffey was staying with the ODI sqaud so they could fly directly to South Africa after.
Seems like a waste to send him back home?

And to add to the McPatel debate, Nathan has some fairly decent bowling form behind him, getting figures of 5/85 off 22, 3/79 off 23, 0/105 off 20 and 3/38 during his A tour games. Just that 0/105 is poop, but at least it shows he can perform in the sub-continent (although this was in a 2-day game situation).

 

[Days of Grace]

Where did you get those figures from?

I could never get scorecards from the A series in India, which irritated me because I wanted to see Bond's figures.

 

[Hurricane]

I wanted Nathan to play ahead of Patel in all the ODI matches champions trophy included. But I am unsure of who should play in the compaq cup. On the one hand since it is a done deal that Patel is going to the champs trophy and Nathan isn't so maybe it is a good idea for Patel to get as much practice in as possible.
On the other hand it would be nice to see us win something. And the boys would benefit from the momentum and I think Nathan = a better chance of winning.

So I could go either way on the compaq cup 2nd spinner question.

 

[DingDong]

there's no need for this talk ok. patel picked up 6 wickets in his last test. more than any other bowler and you want him replaced. we would probably still be bowling to the lankans if it was a timeless test and he didn;t play ok.

 

[Smudge]

Errr, tests and ODIs and Twenty20s are three vastly different forms of the games so I'm not sure how Patel's bowling in the 2nd test is relevant to the Champions Trophy. Could you PLEASE stop trying to stifle debate. This is a forum - we are here to express opinions.

 

[DingDong]

Errr, tests and ODIs and Twenty20s are three vastly different forms of the games so I'm not sure how Patel's bowling in the 2nd test is relevant to the Champions Trophy. Could you PLEASE stop trying to stifle debate. This is a forum - we are here to express opinions.

ok

 

[Polo23]

Where did you get those figures from?

I could never get scorecards from the A series in India, which irritated me because I wanted to see Bond's figures.

New Zealand Cricket - Welcome

Surprised you didn't try there

 

[Days of Grace]

I feel you have to surprise yourself sometimes.

 

[Days of Grace]

I still can't find it on the NZC website.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

I still can't find it on the NZC website.

Here you go dawg

Warm-up One:
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v TNCA, August 9 - 10
Tamil Nadu Cricket Association XI v New Zealand A at Chennai, Aug 9-10, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

Warm-up Two:
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v TNCA, August 13 - 14
Tamil Nadu Cricket Association XI v New Zealand A at Chennai, Aug 12-13, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

Game One:
New Zealand Cricket - Watling leads New Zealand A to 317
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A match rained out

Game Two:
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v TNCA, August 19 - 20

Game Three:
New Zealand Cricket - Hopkins half-century helps NZ A to solid platform
New Zealand Cricket - Spinners bowl New Zealand A to win
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v Barboda, August 22 - 23
(This scorecard seems broken?)

Game Four:
New Zealand Cricket - Emphatic win closes NZ A India tour
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v India Cements, August 26

There are little bulletins that go with each game, but I just put in the ones that add extra info.

 

[Hurricane]

There was a comment today from Baz on cricinfo that said that Bond wasn't bowling at the same speed as 2007 but was still very effective.

"It's been good to have Shane back too. He probably doesn't have the genuine pace he had in the VB Series a couple years ago [2006-07] but he's certainly a better bowler with the ability to read the game and read a player. The likes of Kyle Mills and Ian Butler have really stepped up and all in all, it's a pretty decent bowling line-up."

 

[Athlai]

Well we went suddenly from an okay middle of the road ODI bowling lineup to perhaps the best in the world.

Bond, Mills and Vettori are top ten material.
Butler and Tuffey are solid options.

The Oram position is the weakest

 

[Prince EWS]

Well we went suddenly from an okay middle of the road ODI bowling lineup to perhaps the best in the world.

Bond, Mills and Vettori are top ten material.
Butler and Tuffey are solid options.

The Oram position is the weakest

Oram as a fifth bowler as part of a good attack in ODIs is perfectly fine IMO. He bowls good areas and gets bounce; as long as the other bowlers do their jobs up front and all he has to do is a bowl a disciplined spell in the middle overs he's actually quite good. Problems start appearing when he needs to take a wicket or bowl at the death but with the attack you have I don't think it's a big issue.

 

[Athlai]

Oram as a fifth bowler as part of a good attack in ODIs is perfectly fine IMO. He bowls good areas and gets bounce; as long as the other bowlers do their jobs up front and all he has to do is a bowl a disciplined spell in the middle overs he's actually quite good. Problems start appearing when he needs to take a wicket or bowl at the death but with the attack you have I don't think it's a big issue.

Yeah Oram is probably one of the better 5th bowling options in international cricket.

What are the international attacks anyway...

 

[Athlai]

Australia: Lee, Johnson, Bracken, Hauritz, Watson
England: Can't keep up with them Anderson blank blank blank Collingwood
India: Sharma, Khan, Harbhajan, blankety blank, blankety blank
Pakistan: Asif, Aamer, Gul, Afridi, blank
Sri Lanka: Malinga, Kulasekara, Murali, Mendis, Jayasuriya/Dilshan/Mathews
South Africa: Steyn, Parnell, Kallis, A Morkel, Harris
West Indies: Edwards, Taylor, Bravo, Benn, blank
Bangladesh: Mortaza, Rasel, Shakib, Razzak, Bangladeshi spinners x 1000

 

[Raghav]

Australia: Lee, Johnson, Bracken, Hauritz, Watson
England: Can't keep up with them Anderson blank blank blank Collingwood
India: Sharma, Khan, Harbhajan, blankety blank, blankety blank
Pakistan: Asif, Aamer, Gul, Afridi, blank
Sri Lanka: Malinga, Kulasekara, Murali, Mendis, Jayasuriya/Dilshan/Mathews
South Africa: Steyn, Parnell, Kallis, A Morkel, Harris
West Indies: Edwards, Taylor, Bravo, Benn, blank
Bangladesh: Mortaza, Rasel, Shakib, Razzak, Bangladeshi spinners x 1000

 

[Hurricane]

Looking forward to the ODI tomorrow! Roll on 9pm Tuesday.

 

[Days of Grace]

Here you go dawg

Warm-up One:
New Zealand Cricket - New Zealand A v TNCA, August 9 - 10
Tamil Nadu Cricket Association XI v New Zealand A at Chennai, Aug 9-10, 2009 | Cricket Scorecard | Cricinfo.com

Cheers for that, mate.

 

[Polo23]

Weather not looking too flash...thunderstorms and 100% chance of precipitation. I don't like those odds!