*Official* New Zealand in Sri Lanka

[Xuhaib]

why vettori bats so low?

 

[Craig]

Just a shame the rest of the line-up couldn't pull their finger out

 

[Hurricane]

Those test series against England were pretty close. Especially the series in NZ (remember, we were up 1-0 after the Hamilton test) and we did throw away a winning position in one of the tests in England.

This series against Sri Lanka has pretty much gone the way any smart NZ cricket follower would have predicted. So, while it's disappointing, it is hardly surprising to see us perform like this.

Not quite sure where this "get rid of Moles" talk has come from. What exactly has he done wrong?

I think the Moles talk is just a need for accountability. Personally I think Glenn Turner should be asked to retire from his role. I don't like some of the philosophies he has implemented from a selection perspective. Moles is a mystery for me. I don't know anything about his background and I don't know how good a coach he is. Wouldn't mind it if someone who knows more about him could make a post.

It was good that we won that test against England. But then they brought in Anderson and Broad in the next tests and we struggled. But at least we tested them and made them make changes you are right.

With regards to the fact we were expected to lose against SL. Did the players expect to lose 2-0 as well?
Are we expecting to lose against Australia as well? I am. But I will still be dissapointed when we lose.

 

[inbox24]

NZ should always bat like this. Know their limitations and stick to them until they develop a bit more experience, and then climb into the opposition if desired.

 

[Flem274*]

Oram against Murali.
Should be entertaining and fast.

Very entertaining.

Don't worry, you'll have the last laugh though.

 

[Flem274*]

We are not up to test status, seriously, this is a disgusting effort by 90% of the team and Moles cannot wash his hands of it.

We cant even compete with teams at test level now. Please tell me its going to rain.

Shut up and call radio sport

Seriosuly, either contribute in a half decent manner or take your constant "we suck" posts elsewhere. We are not bangladesh/Zimbabwe level.

 

[Flem274*]

NZ should always bat like this. Know their limitations and stick to them until they develop a bit more experience, and then climb into the opposition if desired.

So in other words, know they make the dumbest decisions possible?

Thats this lots only limitation as a group.

 

[Craig]

Murali is off with a groin problem.

 

[Craig]

200 needed...

 

[Flem274*]

It almost makes you hopeful...

If only we had a 9-10-11 of Franklin, Mills, Tuffey

Or Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara.

 

[Hurricane]

Oram gone. I wasn't making any posts as I didn't want to jinx the partnership.
Good batting by Oram. Shame it had to end. Feels good to have made 300 runs.

 

[Flem274*]

It almost makes you hopeful...

If only we had a 9-10-11 of Franklin, Mills, Tuffey

Or Tendulkar, Ponting and Lara.

STFU you jinxing ****

 

[jondavluc]

Dilshan!!!!!!!

 

[Bahnz]

Real brain explosion from Oram. 7 balls till lunch and you play a shot like that...



Good fight from him though, showed that he can play spin as long as its not completely unorthodox. Only real question left is whether the tail can hang around long enough to get Vettori to a 4th test century.

I really feel for Danny boy. When he came into test cricket back in 1997, he entered an environment stacked with real fighters. Guys like Matt Horne, Fleming, Nash, Richardson, McMillan etc., players who would scrap and fight right to the end. In other words, test cricketers. It was a culture that obviously rubbed off on Vettori and helped build him into the player he is today. However, he now stands pretty much alone and I can't help but think that what Vettori was feeling as he sank to his knees after Oram's dismissal was a deep sense of frustration, bordering on loneliness. The fact that he's averaged 50 in this series makes me want him to bat at number 6 even more. However, being selector, captain, number 1 bowler and middle order batsman really would be too much for one player to shoulder.

 

[cric_manic]

ten sports worst comentary team in the world
does danny know enything about nz cricket?

 

[straw man]

Amazed that we've lasted this long - another immense effort from Vettori. It's a pity O'Brien and Martin are 10 and 11 so he's not likely to get much support now that Oram's out. Patel needs 12 more runs to overtake McCullum's tally for the series.

Imagine if Sri Lanka had declared at 400 they'd have been quite worried half an hour ago (before Oram got out).

Also Oram and Flynn have probably both done enough to avoid being dropped by making a 50 in this innings. Hardly makes a good series for them but will be enough to shift the scrutiny elsewhere.

 

[Brett Dale]

I personally don't think Oram could be bothered.

Any chance of rain coming in?

 

[straw man]

ten sports worst comentary team in the world
does danny know enything about nz cricket?

Is that Danny Morrison? Na, just wants to talk about reverse swing all the time.

 

[straw man]

Real brain explosion from Oram. 7 balls till lunch and you play a shot like that...



Good fight from him though, showed that he can play spin as long as its not completely unorthodox. Only real question left is whether the tail can hang around long enough to get Vettori to a 4th test century.

I really feel for Danny boy. When he came into test cricket back in 1997, he entered an environment stacked with real fighters. Guys like Matt Horne, Fleming, Nash, Richardson, McMillan etc., players who would scrap and fight right to the end. In other words, test cricketers. It was a culture that obviously rubbed off on Vettori and helped build him into the player he is today. However, he now stands pretty much alone and I can't help but think that what Vettori was feeling as he sank to his knees after Oram's dismissal was a deep sense of frustration, bordering on loneliness. The fact that he's averaged 50 in this series makes me want him to bat at number 6 even more. However, being selector, captain, number 1 bowler and middle order batsman really would be too much for one player to shoulder.

Totally agree. About the only time he hasn't had to shoulder the batting responsibility in recent times would have been on the road in the second test against India. He and Moles probably see eye to eye on the application (batting especially) that needs to be drummed into this team for test cricket. Can't say I know much else about Moles but too early to condemn him for these performances as some seem to be doing.

If Vettori could somehow get to a century that would be well deserved.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

For those who live in New Zealand, is Neil Wagner the real deal?

Could be
He's not express, but likes to come in hard, bowling at just under/around 140kph, can apparently swing it both ways too
Not very big for a paceman either, shorter than Ben Hilfenhaus , and his ability with the bat is around James Anderson level
Sort of like a Tim Southee extended edition

His short domestic record shows he's deadly in home conditions, and if he can also show he can bowl on decks with little in them, should probably cement a place in a future NZ side

Plus, it would be nice to have a left-armer who actually focuses on what he's best at