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He's easily quick enough to get success at the highest level, he swings the ball at 85-90mph. He just can't maintain it for a whole test at the moment, I suspect, which brings us back to the whole fitness thing. So yeah, basically he won't play because he's crocked.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
Very annoying for Sidebottom that Notts don't seem to have played this last week for some reason.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
Think poor old Sid is caught between a rock and a hard place. As the SA series & the Windies tour showed if he's not fit enough to bowl at full lick he becomes fodder, especially when there's no swing. However bowling flat out seems to do horrible things to his back, which in turn seems to lead to weight gain and a reduction in pace; it's a vicious circle.
Skeptical whether he'll retain his central contract for the winter, tbh. Looks as if his golden period is going to remain a heartbreakingly brief one.
Skeptical whether he'll retain his central contract for the winter, tbh. Looks as if his golden period is going to remain a heartbreakingly brief one.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Yea this seems to be his CV atm. Although i do have a sneaky feeling there is more it..
PhoenixFire
International Coach
He is quicker than McGrath was and Clark is. Enough said.
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He's quicker than McGrath was in his 30s. Ask Peter Kirsten how slow McGrath was in his early-mid 20s, or anyone else he bounced out in those days.
McGrath in his early days was certainly quick enough.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Fair enough, but that isn't really the point. Richie Benaud said that Lords 2005 was McGrath's best ever spell and he can't have been bowling much more than 84mph.
tooextracool
International Coach
Think thats irrelevant. You cant compare apples and oranges and then say then say that they are both the same because they are the same size.
McGrath got close to the stumps, bowled with an upright action that allowed him to maximize his height by getting more bounce out of the wicket. Not to mention that McGrath was primarily a seam bowler.
Sidebottom bowls from wider of the stumps, is skiddier and relies on swing rather than seam movement. When the ball isnt swinging or barely swinging, Sidebottom at 82-84mph is cannon fodder.
straw man
Hall of Fame Member
Think it's greatly understated how much of a loss Sidebottom is for England. He was the main difference between England and NZ in the series last year (or the series in NZ anyway), had decent pace, good control and looked constantly threatening. He was decidedly better than any other English bowler on display and was the clear leader of the attack.
Of course the pitches were relatively helpful and NZ's batting isn't the greatest - thus he was never forced to bowl a huge number of overs where fitness might come into play. But he still outperformed all his colleagues by a long way in these conditions.
Sidebum = awesome. It's a real shame if his fitness is no good.
Of course the pitches were relatively helpful and NZ's batting isn't the greatest - thus he was never forced to bowl a huge number of overs where fitness might come into play. But he still outperformed all his colleagues by a long way in these conditions.
Sidebum = awesome. It's a real shame if his fitness is no good.
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He's easily quick enough provided he can bowl accurately and seam & swing the ball, which he seemed capable of doing last I saw him bowl. Nobody ever criticizes the likes of Hadlee, Mcgrath or the like of not being quick enough for Test level. Much better option the Broad for a start (who I still can't believe is rated as highly as he seems to be) IMHO.
Incidentally Marc, good to see you back
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According to our spies on the forum who saw him bowl for Yorkshire (four_or_six) he's now ****e.
Athlai
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Broads actually put on a yard of pace since he was diring up New Zealand. Still not good enough to be a frontline bowler though. 140+ reliably is still good pace
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I've seen heaps of Broad since he played against NZ last year & I'd definitely have Sidebottom ahead of him. Main reason being he attacks the stumps more than Broad. Ironically, its been Broad's ability with the bat that has most impressed me in recent times.
pietersenrocks
U19 Vice-Captain
Hoggard has been ****e cos he believes his International career is over.
Harmisson & Sidebottom both are better than Broad ATM. Broad cant take 5-fer by bowling cross-seam.
I say, pick Harmy & Sidebom and drop MSP & Broad.
Harmisson & Sidebottom both are better than Broad ATM. Broad cant take 5-fer by bowling cross-seam.
I say, pick Harmy & Sidebom and drop MSP & Broad.
King Pietersen
International Captain
Broad has taken a Test 5fer, so you're wrong there.
As for picking Harmison and Sidebottom, no thanks, Onions has been the best bowler in the country this season, and he should be picked ahead of them.
As for picking Harmison and Sidebottom, no thanks, Onions has been the best bowler in the country this season, and he should be picked ahead of them.