Akin to me saying Atul Sharma will be better than McGrath once he starts playing.
No no. I did not say Siddle would become a better ODI bowler than Sharma once he plays. I am saying when Siddle plays i am expecting him to have similar success, given that given their test form, they are pretty even as bowlers.
Both are left armers, albeit one is still wrongly listed as LMF.
Bracken is pace bowler. Ojha is a spinner. Bracken seam up with the new-ball & then in the middle overs & death combines his off-cutters as part of his bowling tactics.
It is already clear than in Harbhajan, Ojha and even Misha India's spin options embarasses AUS.
Bracken should be compared to the likes of Kumar, RP Singh, Sreesath - which he clearly is better.
Check out the ODI rankings and see whether they are still on top. They are not.
You are clearly missing my point yo. We are refering to the CB series 08 which India won & i am telling you IND winning that series then, did not make them better than AUS ATT in ODI cricket.
Australia lost a fair few ODI series between the Gilchrist/Hayden ODI era of WC 99 to CB series 08. But AUS losing did not make the opposition better.
This point has nothing to do with RIGHT NOW.
How do you say that despite agreeing to Zaheer = Johnson, Ishant > Bracken, Siddle, Ojha and Harby have no comparitive figures in Aus???.
Australia fast-bowling depth is way better than India thats, why at home AUS would be favoruites. While in IND at home would be favorites becuase of their spin strenght.
Happens to all teams. Even when Ojha made his debut, it was against SL in their own backyard, he came good immediately.
When you are constantly excusing yourself with the same reason for a lengthy period of time, you know something is wrong with the team. It is not as if Aus lost just one series and people started berating them as an ODI team.
Yes but not AUS during their best years. You would be well aware of how over the last decade during the the ultra-competitve winning mentality in the AUS side, that fringe or young players would come in with the regular stars & IMMEDIATELY play well.
During last winter, going into the series AUS had just lost to IND & SA in tests. Selectors where doing crap & big players where under pressure & a few key players where out injured. So fringe players came into an unusal team enviroment, thus they performed below par.
That is why SA beating an under-strenght AUS team due to these reason - is not a straight forward indicator that they are better than AUS @ full-strenght. As i said before SA 3-2 win in 06 was far more legitimate.
Who involved test cricket? I mentioned there is no way James Hopes is a better player than Pathan. In all formats, including ODIs.
Clear contradictory here.
He is a handy player in the shield. But at the moment, when it comes to Internationals, he is found wanting, Hopes that is.
Hopes ODI career has been pretty solid given his role i'd say, by no means has been found wanting overall. His bowling at times could be targeted yea, but on slow surfaces he has proven to hard to get way. While his batting is versatile enough to give decent finishing innings in the late overs & in case of emergency open the innings.
You got no data to back it up shotta, and in T20s, Hopes is a big joke.
His bowling is joke yea. But as he should for KXIP in the IPL - as i just said - if his role is to oepn the batting he is a dangerous hitter. For AUS he wont get that role, so his position in the national T20 is useless.
And Ferguson has played all of SA as a big side?
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Ferguson was AUS best batsman in the ODI series in SA.
Check out his stats for a change mister. Raina's record despite his inexperience is far better than that of Hodge and Hussey.
Yes. But those stats need to taken with a pinch of salt.
It is clear based on domestic ODI & T20 performances worldwide Hodge & Hussey are better bats than Raina. Its just that in their ODI careers they have not had settled roles, they usually play because of injury or as a rest replacement. No player regardless how good you are can't be in & out of a team & expect to have a SOLID record.
Raina may very well have a top ODI career, but as of right now as we are deliberating over who has the better ODI batting depth. Hodge & Hussey are better than Raina clearly.
Lol, the way you arrive at conclusions is hilarious. Nayar is as good as Pomersbach if not better. That is evident from their domestic records,
Also Uthappa, Kohli, Badri, Vijay, Pande, Jadeja etc all outclass the bench strength of Aussies.
Firstly i was never actually comparing Pomersbach to Nayar. This is what i said to the other posted who first brought up this point:
me said:
My bad i forgot about Kohli & Jadeja especially. Its pretty close between Bailey/Pomersbach and these two Indians.
Uthappa is straight wildness, id be very surprised if he plays for IND in ODIs or T20s again.
Badri strong suite seems to be test cricket. Seeing him in the IPL he looks a bit out of his depth in that format.
Pandey no doubt looked exciting, but so did Warner intially. So too early to judge him i'd say.
He is firstly a Netherlands player. So it is an irrelevant argument.
TBH im not sure how strict the lawless ICC is about switching nations, especially a fringe on like the dutch. I sort of think Nannes can still play for AUS because he applied due to Dutch heritage, just like how foreign players can come & play county cricket as European players if they have links. But i could be wrong.
Eoin Morgan played for ENG just 2 years after representing Ireland in the 07 WC. So its a bit confusing.
Secondly, Nannes has hardly played any International cricket to have an assessment. It is funny when you say he is better than RP, who has actually led India to test wins abroad, not to mention ODIs and T20s.
Irrelevant. We talking about ODI cricket.
T20s can give you an idea of how a bowler could bowl in ODI in the death overs at least & seeing the IPL this year. Nannes was slightly superior to RP in that area. While they both are equally dangerous with the new ball.
Because he was denied a contract this year and has hardly impressed in the last few years?.
He only has not impressed in the Perth test vs IND. His ODI bowling has been pretty much what you get from Tait all the time - high pace, waywardness (sometimes accurate) & wickets.
Him not getting a CA contract does not mean AUS selectors dont see him as part of future plans. All it says that they see him as limited overs specialist given his injury record & given the likes depth in pace options in the respective forms of the game he is sort of down the pecking order.
Tait is currently involved in the
AUS A vs PAK A series. So although confusing, its clear he is part of future plans & has a strong chance of being invloved in the ODI side over here this summer.
Nobody put a knife to the Aussie squad's neck and demanded to rest their players. The fact that the top 6 of India remains constant shows a. How fit they are b. How consistent they are.
You just said Indian players cant have have/ask for rest except for Dhoni & Tendy.
And plus, Australia did not miss 5 players of their core in any series. Don't talk out of your arse.
Well i have already explained the crux of this point above. So hopefully when you reach here, you would have gotten the drift...
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Averaging 36 at an abysmal SR of 70 since 2007 WC. His slow batting has ensured that the middle and lower order were put in huge pressure often more than not.
I dont know where you got this madness from. Most likely you went of cricinfo etc & cherry picked a few games & came up with this idea.
But again this is nonsense. He is averaging 36, his SR is down yea. But if you followed Clarke's ODI career along with the dynmaincs of the AUS ODI batting over the years, this really is crazyness.
Clarke when he first started in ODI would come in @ 7 and be quite a clinical finisher, which lead to him getting a few early goes @ opening. This proved to be the detriment to his early test career though since that aggressive style lead to him being dropped.
As he improved his test game, thus leading to a promotion to # 4 in the ODI side when Martyn retired. His ODI batting changed in the dynamincs of the ODI side with him being the the steady presence - but still freescoring around a top 7 consisting of Gilchrist, Hayden, Punter, Ryo, Hussey, Watson.
This really is a baseless stats argument, because just recently in PAK. Clarke was scoring quite freely as Afridi & Ajmal was reguarly tied AUS batting down.
So back to the original point about AUS batting competition. Clarke position has never been under threat.
FC cricket exists for a reason imho.
