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Group C - Australia, Sri Lanka, West Indies

Smith

Banned
Look through the scorecards.He has hardly been as bad as I have seen from Kallis or Dravid.His scoring rate has been effected by low scoring games where he had to knuckle down and getting out before his eye kicked in (aka things like 24 of 40 balls or 12 of 30 balls things that shouldn't effect the game).

HowSTAT! Player Progressive Batting (ODI)

HowSTAT! Player Progressive Batting (ODI)

2008 was a pretty bad year but he didn't put up many substantial totals and when he did we won.

Also funny enough the only times in the last year (09) we put up 300 is because of Haddin and Clarke.

HowSTAT! ODI Scorecard

HowSTAT! ODI Scorecard

This next match is the worst of the lot and it was still a close match ten or fifteening more runs and we would of won.

HowSTAT! ODI Scorecard
Kallis averages 45 @ SR of 77 in the same period.

Dravid is not really the benchmark here. He is hardly the epitome of a great ODI player.
 

brackenNY

School Boy/Girl Captain
Don't get the Ferguson hate really, the guy averages 45+ at a strike rate of 80+ and plays a good role as a finisher. Fair enough his record at state level is not that flash but until he starts to fail at international level, there's no reason to pan him.
Must be the name.
 

Smith

Banned
Code:
Runs	BF	SR	 Target  Req SR	 Diff SR  Opposition	Start Date
39	53	 73.58 	 291 	 97.00 	 23.42 	v West Indies	25-May-03
1	15	 6.66 	 290 	 96.67 	 90.01 	v South Africa	3-Mar-06
47	85	 55.29 	 235 	 78.33 	 23.04 	v West Indies	18-Oct-06
18	29	 62.06 	 293 	 97.67 	 35.61 	v England	2-Feb-07
0	9	 -   	 247 	 82.33 	 82.33 	v England	11-Feb-07
6	15	 40.00 	 292 	 97.33 	 57.33 	v India		8-Oct-07
0	11	 -   	 222 	 74.00 	 74.00 	v Sri Lanka	29-Feb-08
35	49	 71.42 	 290 	 96.67 	 25.25 	v South Africa	9-Apr-09
50	68	 73.52 	 318 	 106.00  32.48 	v South Africa	13-Apr-09
Matches in which Clarke was found out while chasing a target, and which Australia lost. I've selected only a handful of performances in which his SR was way below that was required.
 

jondavluc

State Regular
Code:
39	53	 73.58 	 291 	 97.00 	 23.42 	v West Indies	25-May-03
1	15	 6.66 	 290 	 96.67 	 90.01 	v South Africa	3-Mar-06
47	85	 55.29 	 235 	 78.33 	 23.04 	v West Indies	18-Oct-06
18	29	 62.06 	 293 	 97.67 	 35.61 	v England	2-Feb-07
0	9	 -   	 247 	 82.33 	 82.33 	v England	11-Feb-07
6	15	 40.00 	 292 	 97.33 	 57.33 	v India		8-Oct-07
0	11	 -   	 222 	 74.00 	 74.00 	v Sri Lanka	29-Feb-08
35	49	 71.42 	 290 	 96.67 	 25.25 	v South Africa	9-Apr-09
50	68	 73.52 	 318 	 106.00  32.48 	v South Africa	13-Apr-09
first game was more the fault of the first three batsmen getting out early then Clarke. 73 strike isn't even that bad.

second we were smashed we were never in that and he didn't even last that long anyways so.... no.

third game was a close game where the whole team besides gilly were gone by the time Clarke came were already on the back foot.In the end we were only ten runs short.

the next 4 games he didn't last that long so it shouldn't cost us the game.

the next game everyone was falling around him and chasing we needed a bigger partner up the top to have a chance .I also once again don't think 71 strike rate was awful

Last game Brad Haddin was going to town all we really needed was Clarke to hold his wicket while Brad Haddin went off.After Haddin got out Clarke got out almost straight away.No problem
 

Smith

Banned
first game was more the fault of the first three batsmen getting out early then Clarke. 73 strike isn't even that bad.

second we were smashed we were never in that and he didn't even last that long anyways so.... no.

third game was a close game where the whole team besides gilly were gone by the time Clarke came were already on the back foot.In the end we were only ten runs short.

the next 4 games he didn't last that long so it shouldn't cost us the game.

the next game everyone was falling around him and chasing we needed a bigger partner up the top to have a chance .I also once again don't think 71 strike rate was awful

Last game Brad Haddin was going to town all we really needed was Clarke to hold his wicket while Brad Haddin went off.After Haddin got out Clarke got out almost straight away.No problem
I am surprised. You are justifying his SR of 70 when the required rate was above 6 p.o.
 

inbox24

International Debutant
The point about Clarke is not just in comparing numbers, it's about him not being able to evolve and adapt to an increasing frenetic pace of the game. The guy is much too orthodox (like most of our middle order) and hence is not able to dominate the scoring and make runs when the bowlers are applying the squeeze.
 

Uppercut

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Yet it is Ojha who has the better numbers than all three, despite playing a chunk of his matches against SL, who are known to be killers of newbie spinners? :blink:
I'm guessing you've made up your own numbers, because Pragyan Ojha's most certainly are not better than Roelof van der Merwe's.
 

Migara

International Coach
SL should test out their bench strength. People like Maharoof and Kulasekara needs to be playing.

I would play,

Jayasuriya, Dilshan, Sangakkara, De Saram, Jayawardane, Mubarak, Matthews, Maharoof, Kulasekara, Malinga, Murali

Mendis, Silva and Isuru Udana can sit out.
 

inbox24

International Debutant
Why the hell don't the Windies just let Fletcher keep and make Ramdin a specialist test player or something. The difference in their batting averages in the long term will be negligible, however Fletcher actually has the potential to open the batting and play stunning game changing innings whilst Ramdin is too low to make any difference really. If they do that they can also add an extra batsman into the lineup as well.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Why the hell don't the Windies just let Fletcher keep and make Ramdin a specialist test player or something. The difference in their batting averages in the long term will be negligible, however Fletcher actually has the potential to open the batting and play stunning game changing innings whilst Ramdin is too low to make any difference really. If they do that they can also add an extra batsman into the lineup as well.
:)
 

Mahindinho

State Vice-Captain
Sanath = LEGEND

Can't believe I forgot to bring my radio into work today. Unfortunately, I can't really get away with streaming audio :(
 

shivfan

Banned
Why the hell don't the Windies just let Fletcher keep and make Ramdin a specialist test player or something. The difference in their batting averages in the long term will be negligible, however Fletcher actually has the potential to open the batting and play stunning game changing innings whilst Ramdin is too low to make any difference really. If they do that they can also add an extra batsman into the lineup as well.
To be fair, there are not many batsmen in the squad who are actually better batsmen than Ramdin. I know that's a sad indictment on the quality of Caribbean batsmen, but there it is....

I think both players are needed in the squad, for batting as well as keeping abilities.

Yes, the WI will probably lose this match. But I think they need to get this match under their belt, so that they know what they need to do iff they lost Gayle for a duck.
 

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