**Official** NRL 2009 Thread

[Son Of Coco]

**** me, I know most NSW fans are pissed off at the Hayne no try but to say it cost you the game is a bit rich considering you scored your first try off a forward pass (a very clear forward pass btw) which wasn't called.

Well, QLD scored one of their next two tries off the back of a dodgy penalty call when Hayne apparently 'took out' Folau, despite him not taking his eyes off the ball.

Qld were the better team though, NSW were headless in the first 30-40 minutes.

 

[Trumpers_Ghost]

Well, QLD scored one of their next two tries off the back of a dodgy penalty call when Hayne apparently 'took out' Folau, despite him not taking his eyes off the ball.

Qld were the better team though, NSW were headless in the first 30-40 minutes.

Never, ever had his eyes on the ball and am glad that the refs have finaly had the balls to pay a penalty for this.

BLATANT (and premeditated) Obstruction.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Never, ever had his eyes on the ball and am glad that the refs have finaly had the balls to pay a penalty for this.

BLATANT (and premeditated) Obstruction.

You must have been watching it on the radio.

 

[Johnners]

Argue about the refs all you want, both teams copped some poor decision, they didn't decide the game at all.

 

[Ausage]

Anyone that thinks the refs didn't deliver a major disadvantage to NSW this game are deadset joking. This shift in momentum purely on refereeing decisions handed NSW a 16 point deficit.

Honestly the refs in this game get so much stick because so many of the points are dependent on minute refereeing calls that at times appear absolutely arbitrary. Blades of grass, interpretations and back to back sets with field position have more influence on the game than QLDs superior first half line speed or bruising defense. Games are so so regularly won or lost in the refereeing contest, and that's completely to the detriment of this game.

NSW weren't the better team tonight, but that doesn't mean we weren't robbed.

 

[chaminda_00]

It wouldn't have been a 16 point deficit, if NSW could defend on their line or read plays. Their defensive at times was non existent in the final 20.

 

[Son Of Coco]

Argue about the refs all you want, both teams copped some poor decision, they didn't decide the game at all.

Maybe, maybe not. When something like that happens in the 6th minute who knows how it would have played out. In all likelihood QLD would win anyway as they have the stronger team, but NSW may have kicked on and scored more points from the restart. QLD may have piled on 50. When a bad call results in points to the opposition it has some say in the final result.

As I said before though, QLD were the better team for most of the game. Although I thought both were pretty poor in large patches.

 

[Trumpers_Ghost]

I can see the anger over the Haynes no-try and the Creagh penalty; but the interference on Falau was blatant ( the only complaint I'd have is that it happens to him twice a game every week and NEVER gets penalised; took a big occassion for the refs to finally grow a set)

 

[Smudge]

It's pointless claiming that the try not given (plus a potential conversion even though it would have been right from the touchline) was the six points difference that was so crucial right up until the 80th minute. If the try had been given, the game would have started again from halfway, and the resultant plays would have been completely different as a result. I absolutely hate this sort of revisionism from fans - if a different decision had been made, no-one knows how the next 75 minutes would have unfolded .

 

[Blewy]

It's pointless claiming that the try not given (plus a potential conversion even though it would have been right from the touchline) was the six points difference that was so crucial right up until the 80th minute. If the try had been given, the game would have started again from halfway, and the resultant plays would have been completely different as a result. I absolutely hate this sort of revisionism from fans - if a different decision had been made, no-one knows how the next 75 minutes would have unfolded .

Agree 100%, it changes the whole direction of the match, but 1 thing is for certain, it would have given NSW the perfect start that they needed. They would have had their tails up and we all know what the likes of Jennings, Hayne, Farah, etc can do when they have their tails up...

 

[Burgey]

It's pointless claiming that the try not given (plus a potential conversion even though it would have been right from the touchline) was the six points difference that was so crucial right up until the 80th minute. If the try had been given, the game would have started again from halfway, and the resultant plays would have been completely different as a result. I absolutely hate this sort of revisionism from fans - if a different decision had been made, no-one knows how the next 75 minutes would have unfolded .

This.

Can say it changed the game (as any contentious call does) but no one can say it surely cost the game.

 

[howardj]

Qld turned it on when they had to - at the start and at the end.

And Greggy Inglis....you're a star!!

 

[Simon]

Was such a had game to watch, so much stuff that gets penalised in an NRL game wasnt last night. The play the balls were messy and it was ugly for 80% of the time, a lot of people hate the ammount of penalties refs usually give early in matches, but the lack of it ruined it as a spectacle for me.

Good win anyway, happy to be 1-0 up.

On the Hayne no try, can see why it was given no try but still think the decision was wrong.

 

[Blewy]

Was such a had game to watch, so much stuff that gets penalised in an NRL game wasnt last night. The play the balls were messy and it was ugly for 80% of the time, a lot of people hate the ammount of penalties refs usually give early in matches, but the lack of it ruined it as a spectacle for me.

Good win anyway, happy to be 1-0 up.

On the Hayne no try, can see why it was given no try but still think the decision was wrong.

Agree 100% mate... The game for me was nothing like a normal origin.. It seemed to lack intensity and at stages was getting a bit boring..

What i dont understand with the Hayne No Try and many others that have happened in recent weeks is their is a Rule which states the attacking side gets the benefit of the doubt but it is RARELY ever used, Im seriously starting to wonder to the refs actually know about this rule.. Many will continuously look over and over at replays trying to find reasons not to give tries, There is NO WAY Harrigan could be 100% certain last night that it was a NO TRY...

 

[Simon]

Agree 100% mate... The game for me was nothing like a normal origin.. It seemed to lack intensity and at stages was getting a bit boring..

What i dont understand with the Hayne No Try and many others that have happened in recent weeks is their is a Rule which states the attacking side gets the benefit of the doubt but it is RARELY ever used, Im seriously starting to wonder to the refs actually know about this rule.. Many will continuously look over and over at replays trying to find reasons not to give tries, There is NO WAY Harrigan could be 100% certain last night that it was a NO TRY...

That whole benefit of the doubt to the attack team rule is dead. I think the video refs tend to award it more towards which is more likely, which is why I can see why the Hayne decision was no try. It looked like his foot was on the line (but in the air) at least to me it seemed that. Obviously Harrigan and Mander decided it was most likely that his foot probably touched that line.

 

[Blewy]

That whole benefit of the doubt to the attack team rule is dead. I think the video refs tend to award it more towards which is more likely, which is why I can see why the Hayne decision was no try. It looked like his foot was on the line (but in the air) at least to me it seemed that. Obviously Harrigan and Mander decided it was most likely that his foot probably touched that line.

Thats the problem though, the rule isnt dead. Its still in the rule book... Referees cant pick and choose which rules they want to enforce and which ones they do... Rules are rules, and as i said before there is NO WAY they could be for sure either way that his foot did or did not touch the line...

 

[NUFAN]

The Hayne no try was the correct decision. You can't reward a playing for his twinkle toes effort but putting his foot on the line!

NSW scored all their tries through kicks and although some NSW players (Hayne and O'Donnell and Wing when on the park) played strong they were way off the pace.

I think NSW's first try was a ridicolous decision too, We have so many refs out there that they are scared to award forward passes but then it bites them on the butt because the video ref can't rule on forward passes, which is a stupid rule btw..

Willie Tonga should come in for Hodges in the next match, I really hope Michaels doesn't as he is struggling in NRL..

NSW will no doubt make a change or two, just not really sure who, they might dump Campese and bring in Wing to start with Hornby or Ennis on the bench.

 

[Simon]

Think NSW should make a couple of changes
Jarrod Mullen>Peter Wallace
Tom Learoyd Lahrs>Brent Kite
Glenn Stewart>Anthony Laffranchi
Paul Gallen>Luke Lewis
Joel Monaghan>James McManus

Rest should be given another chance.

 

[Blewy]

Think NSW should make a couple of changes
Jarrod Mullen>Peter Wallace
Tom Learoyd Lahrs>Brent Kite
Glenn Stewart>Anthony Laffranchi
Paul Gallen>Luke Lewis
Joel Monaghan>James McManus

Rest should be given another chance.

Agree
Agreaa
Disagree
Agree
Agree

I would also be considering Campese's place. He didnt show anything last night and unless his club form improves before origin 2 then i would be looking at playing wing at 5/8 and maybe even bringing soward onto the bench as the utility...

 

[Son Of Coco]

The Hayne no try was the correct decision. You can't reward a playing for his twinkle toes effort but putting his foot on the line!.

I'm amazed how many people are certain he touched the line when it took the video ref 7 looks.

Doesn't matter anyway now, on to the next game.