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Trumpers_Ghost
U19 Cricketer
interseting question but, no straight forward answer.
I'd say that in it's last two guises, post 1956 (rebuilt for Olympics, but with footy in mind) and post 2006 (rebuilt for Comm games, but with footy in mind) it was designed for footy. These are the two guises of the stadium of Mega size (100k+).
It was originally built as a cricket ground (hence the name) and was a typical cricket ground and not a coloseum type structure. This ground was replaced on an adjacent site in the late 1800s (going off the top of my head, actual dates would be available) and the new ground was built with both footy and cricket in mind. The members stand that was only demolished in the last ten years was built in the 1920's. The three teared Olympic stand and Ponsford stand were built in the 50's (both also demolished recently) and the Great Southern Stand in the 80's(still there). The Northern stand (replaced the other three) was completed in 2006.
Every time there was a rebuild it was undertaken with the stadium still in full use as they were only doing sections of the ground at a time. Although it is basically a new or newish stadium, there was never a shut down, knock it down, rebuild from scratch, re-open sorta thing like Wembley. (in the 120 or so years that it's been on its current site)
So it has been many stadiums I guess, but they all over lapped; there are grandstands that have stood next to older grandstands kinda thing that dates back to when the stadium was first built on its current site.
So I guess the current stadium (and all proceeding upgrades) was designed for footy, is the not so direct answer.
cheers
ps- damn this is so off topic, sorry about that.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Thats quite a big claim. Off the top of my head I could suggest Green Bay. Population 100 353.
Lambeau Field holds 72,928 and has been sold out on a season-ticket basis for every Green Bay Packers game since 1960.
There is also a waiting list of 81 000 for Season tickets and the wait for new list members is expected to be longer than a reasonable lifetime.
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Trumpers_Ghost
U19 Cricketer
yeah, but that aint a real city. Fans obviously come in from elsewhere. And that is but one sport. What's their next biggest crowd puller at a different stadium?Thats quite a big claim. Off the top of my head I could suggest Green Bay. Population 100 353.
Lambeau Field holds 72,928 and has been sold out on a season-ticket basis for every Green Bay Packers game since 1960.
There is also a waiting list of 81 000 for Season tickets and the wait for new list members is expected to be longer than a reasonable lifetime.
There are some cities that would have legitimate claims though and these would be in affluent, English speaking countries (remember reading up on the figures and these countries ie Aus, Eng, US, Canada, NZ pants all other countries in terms of sports patronage, not sure why though).
Possibly London, Boston, Adelaide, Brisbane, Wellington....
but i'd back Melbourne, if only cause I'm fully aware of it's patronage and know of no other to compare and would be surprised if there was one.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
It is and then more from outside. There is not a city (that I know of) that has a local population city attendance in professonal sport like Green Bay.
Not only does it support it, it owns it. "The Packers are the only non-profit, community-owned major league professional sports team in the United States."
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I would bet you Philadelphia, which is my city. Population is 1.4 million. Phillies average great figures over an 81 game home season (3.4 million attendance total). Eagles stadium has a capacity of 68,532, and is sold out for a decade. I have been on the season ticket waiting list for six years, and still I haven't gotten a call. And we also have Hockey and Basketball.
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Trumpers_Ghost
U19 Cricketer
Good call.....actual city, multiple sports.
Trumpers_Ghost
U19 Cricketer
I stand by what I said about Green bay. I could understand New Zealanders refering to towns that size as cities, but in America there are many real cities.
The crowd size plus waiting list for membership far exceeds the local population, so they ARE being propped up by outsiders. I understand your point about community ownership but means little.
What other sports are played professionally in the TOWN?
I would gather none.
My original comment was based on the variety of proffesional sports played in Melbourne and the patronage.
The reply of Green Bay is like saying everyone in Dimboola (small town) went to the footy on Saturday.
Where I live at the moment is Ballarat, a town (although yes it also likes to refer to itself as a city) of similar size to Green Bay that has zero pro sports teams, so yes it is impressive that they have one. But if Ballarat did have one, a large proportion of the crowd would have to come from Melbourne to make it viable.
I hope you understand what I'm saying.
cheers
The crowd size plus waiting list for membership far exceeds the local population, so they ARE being propped up by outsiders. I understand your point about community ownership but means little.
What other sports are played professionally in the TOWN?
I would gather none.
My original comment was based on the variety of proffesional sports played in Melbourne and the patronage.
The reply of Green Bay is like saying everyone in Dimboola (small town) went to the footy on Saturday.
Where I live at the moment is Ballarat, a town (although yes it also likes to refer to itself as a city) of similar size to Green Bay that has zero pro sports teams, so yes it is impressive that they have one. But if Ballarat did have one, a large proportion of the crowd would have to come from Melbourne to make it viable.
I hope you understand what I'm saying.
cheers
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Rather than derail this thread further, Green Bay has a small popualtion and manages to completely support a franchise in the largest sport on the planet. Something cities like LA (over 10 mil) and Las Vegas cant do.
There isnt a town/city on the planet that could match what Green Bay can do and comparing it to the footy at Ballarat doesnt fly.
Jamee999
Hall of Fame Member
LA could support an NFL team though - and Vegas only doesn't have one because of the negative images that Vegas brings to mind.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Well it has lost 2 teams already and had none of the local levels of passion, ownership and attendance as others. So that point is debateable.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Do you watch it?
Flem274*
123/5
Occassionally.
I'm just not a big fan of 20/20 in general, though I love ODIs and Tests. The IPL does some good for world cricket, but it does its good by being what it is. I'm not against it, and I don't mind people liking it, hence I said it was a matter of opinion.
