Peter Roebuck

[Flem274*]

Does Raghav have a brother? Seems to be similarities between him and the OB & Jeets guy, though I still put money on him being the epic failure result of an HDS and Athlai merger.

 

[Richard]

Raghav was already suspected of mult33z, I forget what the account is called. It was eventually decided that said account wasn't a Raghav mult33.

 

[Pothas]

The worst thing about the article is the way it's written. Got home late last night, tried reading the second paragraph a few times couldn't make head to tail of it and just gave up.

Yeah it is awful, very long winded way of saying really not all that much. Since I am currently wading my way through my final years dissertation I don't want to read cricket articles that read like bad academic journals.

 

[Pratters]

Wow, people really do hate him.

Yeah. Personally, I don't mind his writings. He is opinionated which is a good thing. Better to take a stance and be wrong once in a while than sit on the fence all the time.

 

[Ausage]

The worst thing about the article is the way it's written. Got home late last night, tried reading the second paragraph a few times couldn't make head to tail of it and just gave up.

Did the exact same thing. Just can't be bothered.

 

[Langeveldt]

Personally, I need the opinions of people like Mark Nicholas and Peter Roebuck like a hole in the head..

 

[pasag]

Yeah. Personally, I don't mind his writings. He is opinionated which is a good thing. Better to take a stance and be wrong once in a while than sit on the fence all the time.

Problem is most of his stances are very reactionary, knee-jerk and wishy washy. That's not to say he doesn't make a good point every so often.

 

[vic_orthdox]

It's more the fact that instead of sitting on the fence, he'll be on one side of the fence for one week, then jump onto the other side the next week.

 

[Langeveldt]

Just a few musings that I wrote on Facebook the other day

I hate the patronising way he talks about South Africa, it makes me cringe every time I read his **** on cricinfo.. Yes, Blacks, Whites, Indians and Coloureds can now jive in the stands without tearing each others faces off, but if he had a ****ing brain in his head he would realize that has always been the case. Patronising **** should go back to England

Shambolic, utterly disgraceful the pure tripe he passes off as journalism.

 

[TT Boy]

Just a few musings that I wrote on Facebook the other day

I hate the patronising way he talks about South Africa, it makes me cringe every time I read his **** on cricinfo.. Yes, Blacks, Whites, Indians and Coloureds can now jive in the stands without tearing each others faces off, but if he had a ****ing brain in his head he would realize that has always been the case. Patronising **** should go back to England

Shambolic, utterly disgraceful the pure tripe he passes off as journalism.

You what?

 

[wpdavid]

You what?

Nice version of SA history

 

[zaremba]

Patronising **** should go back to England

Not your most advanced or rational piece of argument, if I may say so Langeveldt.

Anyhow I think he's chosen Australia fair and square - he's taken on Australian citizenship and made it quite clear that he regards himself as an Aussie not a Pom these days. And frankly they're welcome to him.

 

[Smudge]

Nice version of SA history

Yeah, I'm not quite sure what propaganda Langers has been reading, but that's nigh on embarrassing.

 

[Sanz]

It's more the fact that instead of sitting on the fence, he'll be on one side of the fence for one week, then jump onto the other side the next week.

Which is not necessarily a bad thing, is it ? If there are two sides who are equally wrong (e.g. Harbhajan Vs. Symonds issue) it is important to speak without being afraid of any accusation hurled at.

This should be admired quality regardless of what one thinks of him. Some of the criticism in this thread has been really over the top.

 

[Langeveldt]

You what?

He makes out like different racial groups have never been able to co-exist on an interpersonal level and it's now some sort of miracle that we are able to even speak to one another. Quite the opposite has been the case, even though politics has always been a majorly divisive factor here.. I'm not sure what everyone is getting at really, the guy is a freak show of note

 

[vic_orthdox]

Which is not necessarily a bad thing, is it ? If there are two sides who are equally wrong (e.g. Harbhajan Vs. Symonds issue) it is important to speak without being afraid of any accusation hurled at.

This should be admired quality regardless of what one thinks of him. Some of the criticism in this thread has been really over the top.

It's more that he contradicts his own opinion within weeks. He calls for Ponting to be sacked, then weeks later is talking about how great a leader he is and how imperative it is that he leads Australia forth.

He'll hail the great strength of the Australian side, then as soon as there is a loss talk about how there is the need for fresh blood. He's a reactionary, with the memory of a goldfish.

 

[Pratters]

Yes, this is the basic criticism I find of him from every one which seems fair enough. Apart from that, he is okay. The guy can write good pieces and has a good hold of the game's language. I don't dislike him, as I said. He has written quite a few pieces which I like very much. I do rate him as a writer. He has written a good autobiography for instance (from whatever I have read of it) like archie_mac pointed out. Two of his pieces on Lara and Tendulkar are excellent. However, he is not at the same level as a Gideon Haigh or a Stephen Chalke.

 

[Sanz]

It's more that he contradicts his own opinion within weeks. He calls for Ponting to be sacked, then weeks later is talking about how great a leader he is and how imperative it is that he leads Australia forth.

But If Ponting does poorly in a series and in the next series he leads well, it is not contradictory, it stating the facts. It is giving the credit where it is due. I think he demanded It would be stupid to ignore the success of the young Aussie side in SA under Ponting and continue demanding Ponting's removal from captaincy.

He'll hail the great strength of the Australian side, then as soon as there is a loss talk about how there is the need for fresh blood. He's a reactionary, with the memory of a goldfish.

He is not alone, almost everyone in the media loves to harp on suh issues. Yesterday Flintoff was better than Botham and suddenly he is compared to MJ. Besides, if your criticism of him is based on the above it is fair, but calling him anti-UK and all that kind of stuff is just flat out stupid.

 

[vic_orthdox]

But If Ponting does poorly in a series and in the next series he leads well, it is not contradictory, it stating the facts. It is giving the credit where it is due. I think he demanded It would be stupid to ignore the success of the young Aussie side in SA under Ponting and continue demanding Ponting's removal from captaincy.



He is not alone, almost everyone in the media loves to harp on suh issues. Yesterday Flintoff was better than Botham and suddenly he is compared to MJ. Besides, if your criticism of him is based on the above it is fair, but calling him anti-UK and all that kind of stuff is just flat out stupid.

Yeah, I don't see the whole anti-UK thing, etc.

It's not the fact that he changes his opinion per se, it's that he changes it within weeks. Singing the praises of Ponting as a captain and the need to keep him at the helm, within the same month that he called for him to be sacked after the Sydney Test vs India, is the sort of thing that I'm talking about.

 

[Burgey]

His comments about Ponting were more to do with the approach of the team, not the results, and Ponting's and the team's manner of dealing with the match in Sydney. He was about as strident as anyone could get in bagging the captain and the team.

To then turn around within weeks and do a complete 180 degree shift was bizarre to say the least.