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Son Of Coco

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The prospect of taking 20 genuine wickets made Australia incapable of competing with SA in this test. Their team is a one man band atm, take out Johnson and they are not such a threatening side. Australia were extremely lucky to bat first 5 times in a row.
Since when did Ntini, Steyn, Harris and Boucher = genuine wickets? :sleep: The problem was getting rolled for 200 in the first innings...that and not seeming to have a real go at it to start with. As a third test in a decided series I don't think it's worth over analysing. Just like SA's loss in Sydney, even if they did go on to lose the first 2 at home as well.
 

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I Had predicted that australia might just win this series as the pitches in south africa are
more helpful to bowlers and aussie bowling attack which struggled on flat decks which did
not seam in australia did well in southafrica as the ball seamed where else can you see johnson swing or seam the ball back into rigthhanders which makes him lethal.
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Cricket_God

U19 Cricketer
Some other place like England?

How about New Zealand?

Anyway, all of this ignores the fact that Clark and Lee are now fit so Oz has EASILY the best pace attack in the world and would be pretty effective in most places
England and Newzealand do not offer seam movement its more swing.I predicted before the series that australian bowlers will be good in sa so i am not suprised at their success
 
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oldmancraigy

U19 12th Man
Mate,
Pitches in southafrica suited the aussie bowlers as most of them depend on seam movement,when they again comeback to australia or some other place you will see
them struggling agian.
Is that why Siddle has a 24 first class average (on the pitches in Australia?)

We can probably forgive him for finding his feet in the first couple of tests in Aus - but from Sydney onwards he's been outstanding.

I don't doubt Hilfenhaus will struggle - but let's not debate his position right now...
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Career best figures for Morne...

Good to see him released for the first class game, he is a shoe-in for the 20/20 WC so he isn't needed for tomorrow or Sunday. Those games really are about whether the likes of Abdulla, Louw, Parnell and van der Merwe are good enough to go to England. Morne needs all the first class cricket he can get.
 

TT Boy

Hall of Fame Member
Quite an effort from the 19-year-old Rossouw who scored 109 out of 178. Is he a big talent?
Yeah. He was part of Wayne Parnell's U19 WC (finalist) side. Considered along with Parnell and Vandiar as the best talent going. Has one glaring weakness though, the inswinger, gets done regularly with it as he plays all around his pads.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I thought the two cricinfo articles about McGain and Warner were both enlightening. Both players seemed like they were ready for the hard work ahead of them to get back in the team.

I still think that McGain should tour England.
 

0RI0N

State 12th Man
I still think that McGain should tour England.[/QUOTE]

/why?
To increase eng batting averages.You cannot be serious.
He piss poor.If they pick him then 0Z deserve to lose Ashes09.Come back Beau Casson and Crazy Krejza,all is forgiven.
 

oldmancraigy

U19 12th Man
I still think that McGain should tour England.
/why?
To increase eng batting averages.You cannot be serious.
He piss poor.If they pick him then 0Z deserve to lose Ashes09.Come back Beau Casson and Crazy Krejza,all is forgiven.[/QUOTE]

Um?

As bad as McGain was in that test, he was better than Beau Casson and Jason Krejza in the domestic season....

If McGain isn't good enough (and I'm not saying he is) then the others certainly aren't...
 

inbox24

International Debutant
As badly as McGain performed, I think we need to give him more than 1 test match. Just look at Shane Warne.
 

Ausage

Cricketer Of The Year
As badly as McGain performed, I think we need to give him more than 1 test match. Just look at Shane Warne.
Why? At his age and with his injury problems, McGain isn't going to improve massively like Warne did.

If we consider that no Aus spinner should even be close to an automatic selection, I'd take Krejza to England over McGain. We know what Krejza can do if the pitch gives him assistance. Not to mention he's (relatively) young, and could well have alot more improvement in him.

We should have Johnson, Siddle and two of Lee/Clark/McDonald/Hilf depending on Lee's form, and whether we want someone to perform a holding role like McDonald does. North, Clarke and Katich can manage spin, unless the pitch is a spinners paradise, in which case give Krejza a go in the place of North.

EDIT: From what I've heard about Casson's recent form, no thanks.
 

oldmancraigy

U19 12th Man
Why? At his age and with his injury problems, McGain isn't going to improve massively like Warne did.

If we consider that no Aus spinner should even be close to an automatic selection, I'd take Krejza to England over McGain. We know what Krejza can do if the pitch gives him assistance. Not to mention he's (relatively) young, and could well have alot more improvement in him.

We should have Johnson, Siddle and two of Lee/Clark/McDonald/Hilf depending on Lee's form, and whether we want someone to perform a holding role like McDonald does. North, Clarke and Katich can manage spin, unless the pitch is a spinners paradise, in which case give Krejza a go in the place of North.

EDIT: From what I've heard about Casson's recent form, no thanks.
I think there's a fair amount of unwarranted hype over Krejza.

You do realize that the guy has only once taken 4 or more wickets in an innings at the domestic level?

In fact, in terms of his whole life, from schoolboy cricket until today, he has only taken 2 five wicket hauls? And one of those was in that crazy (Krejzy?) test match over in India.

To take 12 wickets on debut, yet still have an average of over 30 must leave one scratching ones head as to how it happened - the clue might be in that he was going for 5 an over.
They were trying to smash him to tomorrow, and lost a bunch of quick wickets...

South Africa treated Krejza with the respect he deserved in Aus - and when he went back to Tasmania, he averaged 50.72 over the 4 games he played.

His 48 first class average is marginally better than his 43 test average, and, yes, he has the ability to bowl a good delivery - but there are just so many bad ones that he'll never be a top line bowler.

Katich, North and Clarke all have better records, and are all far more inexpensive.

Why waste a spot on the guy? Make him work hard at the domestic level to tighten things up for the course of a season, and if he can take wickets without being tonked every which way (ie - average 30) then maybe he can join the conversation.

But that'd take some big improvements on his part.
 

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