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***Official India in New Zealand***

Cricket_God

U19 Cricketer
I haven't seen the ads, but hyperbole is kinda what you expect with advertising. It's the actual "journalists" writing about this tour that piss me off. I mean, the other day there was one story banging on about New Zealand's "famous" winds? Wtf is that about? Why make stuff up?

Anyway, we can definitely both agree that this tour will be jolly absorbing :)
Agree with you mate,Here in india every sports program talks about winds as if we will
be playing in a tornado
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Agree with you mate,Here in india every sports program talks about winds as if we will
be playing in a tornado
It smacks of the journos not doing any research either. The prevailing winds in Chch are easterlies (coming off Pegasus Bay) or nor'westers (heading over the Southern Alps), and AMI Stadium's pitch is north-to-south. So unless the fohn winds of the nor'wester really whip up to a frenzy, it's not an issue in Chch. And there are only two games there.

In Wellington? Sure, the wind is notorious, and the north(ish)-south(ish) layout of the Basin Reserve pitch is at the mercy of the northerlies and southerlies that dominate Wellington's wind, but it's actually less windy than it used to be several years ago here, for reasons unknown (to me at least). Westpac Stadium is well-protected from the wind, so the only issue will come from the high catches, if they even get near the peak of the stands.

Hamilton, Auckland and Napier are no windier than most other places in the world.
 

Evermind

International Debutant
I don't think its Sachin love in that article (although the "Hey wait the master is batting" line was cringeworthy), that's a fairly typical tour diary entry. A random playful instance within the Indian team before the series starts.
"And paaji laughed loudly. He was entertained. So were those around. And when Tendulkar is happy, usually so is the rest of India. "

What is he, the ****ing STAR-CHILD?
 

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
To Australian viewers, am I correct in saying that only Foxtel HD viewers can watch India vs. NZ?
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
In Wellington? Sure, the wind is notorious, and the north(ish)-south(ish) layout of the Basin Reserve pitch is at the mercy of the northerlies and southerlies that dominate Wellington's wind, but it's actually less windy than it used to be several years ago here, for reasons unknown (to me at least). Westpac Stadium is well-protected from the wind, so the only issue will come from the high catches, if they even get near the peak of the stands.

Hamilton, Auckland and Napier are no windier than most other places in the world.
Don't know about that. I was at my mum's house on mount victoria the other day, and the northerly just about blew it off the hill. And whenever I go to the Basin, there always seems to be a gale blowing. That said it was pretty calm most days for the England test last year.
 

Smudge

Hall of Fame Member
Don't know about that. I was at my mum's house on mount victoria the other day, and the northerly just about blew it off the hill. And whenever I go to the Basin, there always seems to be a gale blowing. That said it was pretty calm most days for the England test last year.
It was in the news a few months ago. Can't be ****ed looking for it, mind you.
 

adharcric

International Coach
16 tins of Spam said:
Ok, because generally what I'm reading in non-NZ media about this tour is that:

1. India are teh awesumest evar.
TBF, they are in great form and a win over NZ in NZ may make India genuine contenders for the #1 spot (depending on the AUS-SA result).
16 tins of Spam said:
2. NZ will be pwned.
How many articles has Cricinfo written lately about India's miserable struggles in NZ? On form, India are certainly favorites - it's their history in these conditions that makes this an intriguing contest and Cricinfo has certainly highlighted that aspect.
16 tins of Spam said:
4. Did we mention that India generates (insert gigantic amount of money here) and that without them NZ Cricket would shrivel and die?
Isn't it true to an extent? Besides, nobody is rubbing that fact into your face (except perhaps yourself). Everybody knows the BCCI is corrupt as **** but they've damaged Indian cricket just as they have NZ cricket (the Bond situation). They've got the money and NZC need the money, so take it and focus on the cricket.
16 tins of Spam said:
5. For some reason the weather in NZ isn't to our liking and we feel that we should constantly mention it.
Well yes, when it drizzles and a tour is about to start, you mention it. When the weather has been one of the big challenges for the Indian team in the past, you mention it. When helping the players deal with this weather has been one of Kirsten's priorities, you mention it.

Get over it.
 
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Evermind

International Debutant
TBF, they are in great form and a win over NZ in NZ may give India genuine claims at the #1 spot (depending on the AUS-SA result).
Nope. India needs to beat SA in SA (like Aus have done) and it needs to beat Aus in Aus (like SA have now done) for it to have any genuine claims at the #1 spot. They could win a hundred games against Bangladesh for all I care - but these two countries are the crucial tests.
 

adharcric

International Coach
Nope. India needs to beat SA in SA (like Aus have done) and it needs to beat Aus in Aus (like SA have now done) for it to have any genuine claims at the #1 spot. They could win a hundred games against Bangladesh for all I care - but these two countries are the crucial tests.
Let me rephrase that: India will be genuine contenders for the #1 spot if they beat NZ in NZ. Of course, things will still be very close between the top three teams, especially if Australia beat SA in SA.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Get over it.
You know, I've have no idea how many times I've posted on CricketWeb about Jonathan Millmow's appalling cricket journalism, but I know it's a lot. I also know that not one person has ever gotten on my case about it. Yet, I get annoyed about the whole standard of journalism regarding this tour, and I have to "get over it". 8-)

You know what? Whatever.
 

biased indian

International Coach
That is ridiculous. However, in other areas I think there is a cause for some quite rightful indignation, particularly in New Zealand where we lost our best player due to a BCCI directive.

he knew in advance he was going to play in an unofficial thing ..so its his fault...and if he had waited a little longer he would have mad a lot of money form IPL
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
he knew in advance he was going to play in an unofficial thing ..so its his fault...and if he had waited a little longer he would have mad a lot of money form IPL
Shane Bond was initially told by NZC he was okay to play in the ICL and for the national team, it was when it was too late that he found out otherwise.

It's more NZC's fault than anyone else's.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You know, I've have no idea how many times I've posted on CricketWeb about Jonathan Millmow's appalling cricket journalism, but I know it's a lot. I also know that not one person has ever gotten on my case about it. Yet, I get annoyed about the whole standard of journalism regarding this tour, and I have to "get over it". 8-)

You know what? Whatever.
Completely agree with you mate. "Get over it." was pretty harsh, I think.

Mind you, I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks Millmow's a good writer.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Completely agree with you mate. "Get over it." was pretty harsh, I think.

Mind you, I don't think you'll find anyone who thinks Millmow's a good writer.
Interesting aside: the other day Millmow wrote an unusually positive article about the NZ team. I submitted a post on stuff hinting that I was skeptical of the authenticity of the byline and the post was never published. Conspiracy? ;)
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Interesting aside: the other day Millmow wrote an unusually positive article about the NZ team. I submitted a post on stuff hinting that I was skeptical of the authenticity of the byline and the post was never published. Conspiracy? ;)
:laugh::laugh: I'd have loved to hear the discussion of your comment at Fairfax Media Headquarters!
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ok, because generally what I'm reading in non-NZ media about this tour is that:

1. India are teh awesumest evar.
I'm assuming most of this is from Indian sources. If so, what did you expect? Incredible amount of fanboyism in the Indian media. No one takes it seriously

2. NZ will be pwned.
India are the better team and should start favourites. What's so offensive about that? They even have ages before the Tests start getting acclimatised to the country.

4. Did we mention that India generates (insert gigantic amount of money here) and that without them NZ Cricket would shrivel and die?
NZC might not shrivel and die(not sure where this assumption comes from) but Indian money is going to be huge for them. Once again what's so offensive about that, I haven't seen anyone who I take seriously lording it over you guys and saying bow down to the BCCI.

5. For some reason the weather in NZ isn't to our liking and we feel that we should constantly mention it.
Haha, this is fair enough. Those are the conditions and we have to perform in them whether we like it or not.

I mean seriously, did you even read the article that started this whole debate? That's what I'm talking about. It was an extreme example, but still. All I ask is for a spot of respect, perspective and - dare I say it - professional journalism instead of cheerleading. That's what the Channel 9 commentary team is for.
Probably why I barely even read cricket articles these days. Prefer to watch it and make up my own mind on things. Everyone has their spin and agendas these days.
 

S.P. Fleming

U19 Cricketer
To Australian viewers, am I correct in saying that only Foxtel HD viewers can watch India vs. NZ?
I know the 20/20 is on live tommorow but the game on Friday isnt shown until the next morning. I had a look on the website and it looks as though they didnt pick up on some of the changes in schedulling as they are showing the 1st ODI live on March 8 when it is actually on the 3rd. A bit confused but they are showing so much cricket during the tour (Aus v Sa, WI v Eng, WWC, sheil GF) that they are only gonna show some bits live, im unsure about HD.
 

adharcric

International Coach
You know, I've have no idea how many times I've posted on CricketWeb about Jonathan Millmow's appalling cricket journalism, but I know it's a lot. I also know that not one person has ever gotten on my case about it. Yet, I get annoyed about the whole standard of journalism regarding this tour, and I have to "get over it". 8-)

You know what? Whatever.
Don't have the slightest clue who Jonathan Millmow is and how he's relevant here. Look, if you're annoyed about the "star-struck" title that's understandable, even though that's pretty standard opportunistic journalism given that Taylor actually used those words. I responded to your allegations of poor reporting about India's form, India being favorites, the money aspect and the weather conditions. Instead of defending your stance, you bring up Millmow and ... yeah.
 

Dick Rockett

International Vice-Captain
Don't have the slightest clue who Jonathan Millmow is and how he's relevant here. Look, if you're annoyed about the "star-struck" title that's understandable, even though that's pretty standard opportunistic journalism given that Taylor actually used those words. I responded to your allegations of poor reporting about India's form, India being favorites, the money aspect and the weather conditions. Instead of defending your stance, you bring up Millmow and ... yeah.
Why would I defend my stance when i've already made my points like, five times? If you want to jump in when the argument's over and Jono has already said everything you did, then ok. Just don't expect me to go blue in the face having the same, pointless argument with you.

If you will, however, act like a twelve year old and conclude your post by telling me to "get over it", then I'll respond to that, and if you can't even understand why my bringing up Millmow is relevant, then I'm afraid I can't help you.
 

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