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** Official Cricketweb Horseracing thread **

Smudge

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Putting my balls on the line here, ahead of tomorrow.

It’s that time again. The time when the ugliest mutton in Canterbury attempt to transform themselves into the most succulent legs of lamb; the time when the moleskins are sent to the drycleaners for the first time since last November; and the time when non-racegoers suddenly start talking about mile rates, closing 400m times and the “three-wide train”. Yep, it’s Cup week and – more specifically – the New Zealand Trotting Cup tomorrow.

Now, I’m one of those sad tragics who actually gives two ****s about mile rates et al for the other 51 weeks of the year, and as such, here’s the best preview you’ll ever see without having to pay for. Well, aside from the broadband usage you’re eating up by reading this.

THE UNDERCARD:

Race 1:
What a way to start the day – with one confirmed trotting star, and two up and comers. Sovereignty, the squaregaiter with his name firmly in lights after dominating the 3-Year-Old trotting season in 2007/08 is back, and looked every bit as good as last year when he resumed with a 2 ¼ length win at Addington on October 21. But he’s giving 10 metres to another rising star, the Tim Butt and Phil Anderson-trained gelding, Ray. And if anyone knows how to train trotters, it’s Tim Butt – he of Lyell Creek and Take A Moment fame. One cannot discard Makarewa Sun though – a very lightly-tried 7-year-old Sundon gelding, who has sheer speed which can be utilised if he gets a soft trip to add to his 5 wins from 10 starts. However, I’m opting to chuck in the drive of Dexter Dunn, The Fat Controller, who surprised everyone at Ashburton, for third.

Selections: Sovereignty, Ray, The Fat Controller

Race 2:
Two loom as likely contenders here – Rangataua Ray and Reine Guinevere. If one was to go on trainers, the only option would be to stick with Reine Guinevere as Mark Purdon and Grant Payne are in brilliant form, but her draw of 12 (three on the second line) could be somewhat tricky, so I’m opting with Rangataua Ray who will, admittedly, need a bit of luck from his draw on the outside of the front line.

Selections: Rangataua Ray, Reine Guinevere, Victoria Rulz

Race 3:
Assuming Absolute Magic doesn’t sneak into the Trotting Cup field (and he’ll need two scratchings to do so), this should be a two-horse affair between he and the Great Northern Derby winner Fiery Falcon. They’re both off the front so it could be a case of who steps better. The both tend to have good standing start manners, and I’d anticipate an early battle between Absolute Magic and Ohoka Utah for the lead. As such, Fiery Falcon could be able to get away with a tuck in the running line out of danger before driver Blair Orange decides to put him into the race.

Selections: Fiery Falcon, Absolute Magic, Ohoka Utah (smallest trifecta of the day)

Race 4:
Good betting race, this. I’m keen on the horses with the good draws again, particularly over the sprint distance of 1950m, which is why I’m opting for the Jim Curtin trained-and-driven Dream Away gelding Dream Supreme. He’s got an outstanding turn of foot, which he should be able to utilise up the passing lane after most likely trailing behind Lord Mamaduke for the majority of the journey. Look for the Southland-trained Salliwood and Belhelvie to be running on at the end.

Selections: Dream Supreme, Salliwood, Belhelvie.

Race 5:


Springbank Richard - needs his manners to be right to have a chance against Our Sunny Whiz

It doesn’t get any easier to pick when we move to race 5. The quality in this field is deeper down the numbers – Our Sunny Whiz (off 10m) and Springbank Richard (off the front, but on the unruly mark) loom as the likely quinella, but Springbank Richard in particular is very hit-or-miss from the stand, winning six of his 12 starts, but finishing nowhere when he has missed away. For that reason, Our Sunny Whiz is my top selection (despite an average trial last week) to beat Awesome Imace and Springbank Richard for third.

Selections: Our Sunny Whiz, Awesome Imace, Springbank Richard

Race 6:
Won’t muck around here- Charbella Gold (drawn nicely at 4) to beat Hilarious Life and the resuming Rider On The Storm.

Selections: See above

Race 7:
Joyfuljoy should continue an excellent day for the Purdon/Payne barn, beating Tact Lizzie (who was disappointing at Ashburton) and Captain Bromac.

Selections: See above

Race 8:
One of the toughest Sires Stakes finals to work out in recent years. Purdon and Payne again have a huge hand in here, with Highview Tommy, Eric’s Legend, Mercurio and Sleepy Tripp all live winning chances, after they won the same race last year with the superstar Auckland Reactor. The early money is on Stunin Cullen though, and I can’t have Highview Tommy after he keeps finding ways to beat himself. Hoping for Kirk Larsen to sneak a place here with Dustin Bromac or The Showman.

Selections: Stunin Cullen, Sleepy Tripp, Dustin Bromac

Race 9:


Auckland Reactor - the superstar of NZ Harness Racing

This isn’t even a contest. Auckland Reactor has already been opened at the shortest racing fixed odds price in NZ history, at $1.05. The only reason he isn’t in the NZ Cup is that his standing start manners have been terrible to date so he will smash this junior free-for-all field to pieces from the mobile. Letitia Franco’s resuming run at Ashburton was tough, so I’ll lob her and fellow mare Artishake in for the multiples.

Selections: Auckland Reactor, Letitia Francho, Artishake.

Race 11:
The weakest field of the day, but that just means another winning chance for Purdon and Payne. No need to go past the NZ Trotting Derby winner from last season, Doctor Mickey, who won well second-up at Ashburton, while I’ve been following Brownie with interest.

Selections: Doctor Mickey, Brownie, Araucana

Race 12:
If you need a roughie to get you out of trouble in the last, then hard luck. Or maybe not. All Tiger has a tricky draw of 10 (one on the second line) but has Texas Hold Em immediately outside him so they’re pretty much in the same spot of bother. Instead, I’m going to go one further out to Georgetown, who has done the job in his two starts back since a spell, and is as tough as teak.

Selections: Georgetown, Texas Holdem, All Tiger

THE CUP:
I have but one wish – for Changeover not to win the cup. His trainer, Geoff Small, represents everything that was wrong about the bad old days of harness racing – the horse itself has a caffeine charge hanging over it from two years ago (yes, it’s illegal to let a horse have a latte before a race), Small was involved in a case of team driving almost two years ago which is still to be heard while more recently he refused to allow the club vet inspect his horses after they ran poorly at Alexandra Park a few weeks back.

Unfortunately, he’s drawn brilliantly and has the best manners out of all the best changes. However, the race distance of 3200m means it’s not going to be a procession – there will be moves a’plenty throughout the race and if things constantly evolve, Changeover and driver David Butcher could find themselves three-back on the markers with nowhere to go. Steven Reid thought he had the race won with Monkey King last year only for the iron horse Flashing Red to upset the applecart, but the “Monkey”, if he can get away, is a huge danger with one run at them. Baileys Dream is reputedly as good as he’s ever been and can work several times in a race, so Reid has every chance of cup glory this year. I can’t have Gotta Go Cullen in my top three after his extremely average barrier manners in recent starts and sadly, for my mate who has a tiny share, Awesome Armbro went very poorly at Kaikoura and looks to have peaked already.

Selections: Monkey King, Baileys Dream, Changeover. Roughie for a place: Likmesiah

$10 Pick Six:
Leg 1: 4, 8
Leg 2: 3, 4, 6, 13, 15,
Leg 3: 4
Leg 4: 3, 16, 17
Leg 5: 1, 14
Leg 6: 10, 12

$10 = 17%
 

Smudge

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No one is actually reading this thread, but if they do, you HAVE to look out for Auckland Reactor during his Australian campaign. What he did to the rest of the Free-For-All field at Addington tonight was brutal, utterly ****ing brutal. He sat outside the NZ Cup winner, Changeover, for the last 800m, and - well - did nothing less than kick their ****ing heads in. This was his first look at open-class pacers and he has dealt to them. Legend status looms just around the corner.
 

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Hey, I'm reading it. Just haven't really had access to a computer in the last few days. Agreed about Auckland Reactor, unbelievable.

Loved the thoroughbred racing this week too. The daughter of Spring, a horse I was a real fan of a few years back, won the 1000 Guineas and the 2000 Guineas was a phenomenal race run in front of an absolutely massive crowd. Can't get any better than that really.
 

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Have to say, haven't seen many horses do in the first half of their 3yo season what Tell A Tale has done. And he's done it so impressively.

I didn't think he could improve on his 2000 Guineas effort, but he just might have in the Avondale Guineas today. He was a long way off them coming to the turn but circled the field and won in a canter.

Special horse. Best 3yo since Xcellent.
 
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Smudge

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My first race meeting at Trentham this afternoon. I appreciated the nice long straight but I (or fellow boozers, including high profile members of the racing media) could not work out why on earth the rail was out about five metres.
 

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Yeah I was wondering about that, still a month and a half away from their big meeting.
 

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What is it with NZ and horses with terrible legs managing to have success through guts, determination and will to win? Ruud Van Slaats is another, she has shocking legs but won her second Group 2 today. She was tackled on both sides and looked like she was going to be swamped but fought them all off. Huge performance.
 

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RaceCafe is by and large a waste of time to read, but I just saw something interesting. John Galvin, manager of the syndicate that owns Tell A Tale, has said "there are two Group races that he can contest on Boxing Day".

Good thing I didn't take the $2.50 on him in the GN Guineas then. Would have thought that was the better spot for him, but good luck to them if they decide to take on the older horses.
 

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He's at $2.20 against the older horses in the Zabeel. Admittedly it's a rather **** bunch of older horses, but for a 3yo having his first try over 2000m it's a bit on the short side IMO.

Hope he wins though, exciting horse.
 

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So Jacowils wins the Railway at $105.80. Wow.

Seeing the celebration by the owner/trainer/breeder (all the same person) and jockey after the race was awesome though. They were over the moon. **** I love this sport.
 

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And Mufhasa wins the Telegraph. Australian visitor Turffontein only manages sixth.

The "oh he's Australian, he must be better" reasoning falls flat...:D
 

Smudge

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Had a couple each way on Mufhasa - couldn't go past his distance record. That said, (Lord) Turffontein isn't exactly in the top echelon of Australian sprinters, and he did cop the visitors' draw.

And in harness, Auckland Reactor gets rolled for the first time ever on Friday night after his standing start manners again flared up. Hopefully the connections will remove the kid gloves now and send him to some real races.
 

Mister Wright

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Saw something interesting the other day, where a jockey fell off with about 10 metres to go and the horse still went over the line in first place.

I know the horse still can't win, but seems a strange rule to me, shouldn't matter if the jockey is still on the horse or not. It is horse racing after all, not horse and jockey racing.
 

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Haha, true. But a horse goes faster without the weight of the jockey on board.

I found it funny reading an Australian article about our big race on Saturday, saying it was won by "New Zealand's leading female jockey". They couldn't quite grasp the fact that she's actually New Zealand's leading jockey, full stop.
 

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Can't believe wheat I just saw in the Thorndon Mile. Sir Slick, a horse who has in my opinion been trained as badly and has been as horribly overraced as any racehorse I've ever seen, still comes out and wins in his 88th start.

Pretty amazing animal.
 

Smudge

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Yeah, didn't see the race, but that's just plain embarrassing for our milers. While it was far from the best mile field in NZ history, the Aussies will be pissing themselves at that result.
 

Smudge

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Summary of Moonee Valley Saturday night:

Alabar Victoria Derby
With the race devoid of some talents (Bus To Harland not making the final and Bonavista Bay missing the heats through injury), this race shaped up as a one-horse affair. And so it proved. The Mach Three gelding, Captain Joy, won his heat in a canter and after drawing 6, it was going to be hard to see him beaten. Good run from the sole filly in the race, Broadways Best, who took up the lead before surrendering it to Captain Joy after a few hundred metres. From there, it was a procession. He's now looking to come across to Alexandra Park for the $600K Woodlands Northern Derby on March 6.

Interesting news to come out today - Tim Butt has bought Bus To Harland with a view to racing him in the Derby. Bearing in mind he and co-trainer Phil Anderson already have the favourite, Stunin Cullen, in the race, this gives the pair a very strong hand in the beefed-up feature. It remains to be seen whether Bonavista Bay will be fit to head across the Tasman but if he does, it promises to be the age-grade feature of the season with the aforementioned joining Tintin In America, Highview Tommy, Antares and any other of the Mark Purdon/Grant Payne runners (Sleepy Tripp and potentially a filly like Joyfuljoy).

Inter Dom Trotting Grand Final
Having drawn the front line, Sundons Gift was always going to have a tactical advantage over his arch-rival, One Over Kenny, but the sheer class of the Sundon mare gave Kiwi fans hope of her improving on last year's effort where she wilted in the semis and final. Fact of the matter is that Sundons Gift got to the lead too easily for One Over Kenny to be able to genuinely put pressure on, and by the time Herlihy sent her round to the death, Sundons Gift had been able to roll along in front at his own leisure. And that's why Lang was able to let down his star to pull out a 56.6 last 800m - not something you see every day from the trotters. One Over Kenny lost no admirers in running second and will relish being back at Alex Park over the next couple of months as she goes much better right-handed. That said, the Rowe Cup is shaping up as a cracker with Sundons Gift possibly joining Stig and the mare in a three-way battle.

Big6 Hunter Cup
Nice open race this, and the Butts came up trumps with their unusual runner, Mr Feelgood. For the uninitiated (which I'm sure there are many of you if anyone bothers reading this thread!), Tim Butt went over to the States to purchase an open-class horse to tackle Australasia's best in the features. Bearing in mind all racing in the States is over a mile, and the likes of the Hunter Cup are almost two miles, it's a bold move, and requires changes in a horse's training and fitness - never mind the need to teach the horse what a standing start is all about. But it's worked - Mr Feelgood's two stands (Shepparton on Jan 24 and Moonee Valley on Saturday) have been fine and it's been proven that if he gets a pull into the race, he can finish off a race better than most horses Down Under. There's no doubting his talent - he's a former Little Brown Jug winner - and it'll be intriguing to see what happens next season at NZ Cup time. I Am Sam led all the way, only to be run down by Mr Feelgood, while Tim Butt's great day continued with Report For Duty returning to form with a third. I thought Changeover's run was pretty huge, considering he had to do all the work three-wide in the last lap, only really relinquishing a podium finish in the last 50 metres.
 

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The NZ Derby is only 5 days away.

It's an even field, which often means there's a lack of quality. I don't believe that's the case this year. I don't really care who wins, as long as it's not Coniston Bluebird.

His trainer seems confident - Horse Racing - Horse Racing - Coniston Bluebird ready to fly in Derby

But his statement that Coniston Bluebird is "meeting pretty much the same opposition" as he did in the Championship Stakes (in which he was a good 3rd) is one of the more ignorant comments I've seen in a while.

The following horses didn't run in that race - Jungle Boots, Tell A Tale, Easy Ryder, Sufficient, Late Addition, Puttanesca

And the following were completely unsuited by the wet track in that race - Le Baron, The Meista, Gallant, The Spaniard, Fears Nothing

I think the connections of Coniston Bluebird might be in for a shock come Derby day. In saying that, of course, I've set myself up to be massively embarrassed if he wins.

As for predicting a winner, there's too much that we won't know until the race. If Tell A Tale stays the distance I don't see them beating him, but we won't know if he'll stay it until it happens. Pedigree says he won't stay, but the way he's been running his last few suggests he might. And how Jungle Boots will go depends entirely on the mood he's in on the day.
 
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