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*Official* England in West Indies
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Nate
You'll Never Walk Alone
He looked fantastic against everyone but Sidebottom. Really mature knock at a great strike-rate.
superkingdave
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Stands to reason it will happen against England, but his record is incredibly poor...he hasn't even got close in FC cricket.
tooextracool
International Coach
Sidebottom's selection is the worst of the lot. Theres absolutely no logic behind selecting a player that has bowled in one game in over 6 months. All this chopping and changing to the side every game has just got on my nerves. The best bowling performance we have seen from England in the last year or so involved the attack of Harmison, Anderson, and Flintoff, we saw this against SA in the summer and we saw this in the first test against India. Yet Harmison was dropped after one poor game and now Anderson has been dropped after another when people like Monty and Bell have been playing like clowns for over a year now and are still retained in the side.
Woodster
International Captain
I wasn't suggesting the pitch had changed, or that it was the pitch's fault. Merely stating he wasn't getting as much out if it as Benn, through his own fault not the pitch or anyone else's!
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It's never "game over" when one team still has an entire innings to bat.
Seriously, there's a major overreaction here. Yes, England have been comprehensively outplayed, and the West Indies are in the driving seat. That doesn't mean they will be by the close of play tomorrow.
But I suppose it's the same people who said it was game over when South Africa had two days to bat out at Lord's, when they were 7 down and 200 runs behind at the end of day two in the second test in Australia, or when New Zealand had a 100+ first innings lead at Old Trafford. How anyone who's watched cricket for more than a few months can call a test "game over" when it's not even halfway through is beyond me.
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I wonder how dire he is when he's bowling without it.Just heard Matt Prior on the radio saying Monty is “bowling with a real good rhythm”.
Scaly piscine
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Don't worry Monty's only piss poor because he's 'out of form'.
Once he's in form, in a real good rhythm and Jupiter is aligned with Uranus he'll be back to boosting his average by destroying literally 2 or 3 WI tailenders at the end of each innings.
Once he's in form, in a real good rhythm and Jupiter is aligned with Uranus he'll be back to boosting his average by destroying literally 2 or 3 WI tailenders at the end of each innings.
Athlai
Not Terrible
There tends to be a standard rule that if you win 4 sessions of a Test match outright you win the match. Sure there are exceptions to the rule but those are nigh on miracles.
Woodster
International Captain
One bad session can alleviate any pressure built up through the previous sessions of play. Should WI win the morning session they will be in a good position, but Test over ? Do me a favour.
Woodster
International Captain
Fully agree.
Athlai
Not Terrible
Hey its not my rule.
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
I think that this kind of so-called "rule" demonstrates that the fixation with which team "wins" a particular session is not particularly helpful or informative.
I agree entirely with those who are saying that the game is far from over, and would still be far from over even if the Windies were to have a good morning session today. This is Test cricket, and the whole bloody point of Test cricket is that fortunes can swing dramatically in a relatively short space of time. That's not a miracle, it's just what happens in Test cricket (although I do admit that the whole concept of Test cricket is pretty damned miraculous, for this very reason)
Woodster
International Captain
There are big sessions in a Test that can go some way to determining the outcome of a Test. Although WI won the sessions yesterday, they have not taken the game away from England, and I cannot imagine they will do in just the morning session tomorrow, no matter how dominant they are.
Mr Mxyzptlk
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No, last time they did it they whitewashed us.
4 sessions is barely a quarter of a Test. I've never heard of that rule.
Athlai
Not Terrible
4 in a row and win them outright.
I'm sure some commentator says this all the time, I've heard it quite a bit.
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4 in a row and winning them outright could still just be a score of 400-5 or so. And there's no guarantee that you'd win from that position. It's highly unlikely that you'll lose, but it won't take a miracle for the other team to avoid defeat.