*Official* England in West Indies

[Uppercut]

From what I have read, Harmison was the 'pick' of the bowlers yesterday whilst two wickets for Anderson and a lack of potency from Sidebottom may see Jimmy start next week.

BBC sport say the complete opposite.

I thought there was a mandatory declaration in tour matches?

 

[superkingdave]

cricinfo reckon that Harmison took the last 2 to fall.

Can't see whySidebottom is a cert after playing next to no cricket in the last 6 months.

yeah apparently the radio comms got it wrong. Anyway Simmons finally out to Sidebottom...didnt quite make 300

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

This could come under scrutony, but don't see how you can leave Simmons out

For the same reason we can leave Carlton Baugh out.

 

[Jigga988]

For the same reason we can leave Carlton Baugh out.

Oh Lordy, there's not much better on show tbh, I don't see the reason why we can't take a punt on a guy who has scored 250+ runs in one innings against the same attack we'll play in the test match. Simmons has at least had some experience, though if Carlton Baugh did something similar to this then I might have to retract my statement somewhat. Carlton Baugh is a joke but Simmo is not don't see why you wouldn't just chuck him in there, like I said rather him than Richards.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Oh Lordy, there's not much better on show tbh, I don't see the reason why we can't take a punt on a guy who has scored 250+ runs in one innings against the same attack we'll play in the test match.

For the same reason that we can't take a guy who's scored two impressive hundreds against Australia in warmup matches. Because there's no sense investing in mediocrity. And Simmons has done little to prove that he's not mediocre. Let him play out the season at least to prove it.

 

[Jigga988]

For the same reason that we can't take a guy who's scored two impressive hundreds against Australia in warmup matches. Because there's no sense investing in mediocrity. And Simmons has done little to prove that he's not mediocre. Let him play out the season at least to prove it.

Suppose there's a point to that... big man Morton always seemed to score the runs in warm up matches, but I just think a 280 odd is different tbh.

 

[Jigga988]

WI declare at 574 with Harmy leaving with 4 wickets - mostly the tail - and England race to 113 for 1 off 20 with Strauss on 55 and Bell on 49, though Cook's out for golden duck via Mclean.

 

[superkingdave]

Latest i heard is, Cook got a duck, Strauss 55* and Bell 49*. Bell dropped btw, straightforward chance

Looks like we're stuck with Bell for the test series.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Suppose there's a point to that... big man Morton always seemed to score the runs in warm up matches, but I just think a 280 odd is different tbh.

Hey, Simmons played a quality knock. Now he should go back to T&T and score at least 2-3 more tons this season. Because one innings cannot make a mediocre batsman a Test class batsman. Doesn't matter who it's against.

The way I see it: Australia > England, Simmons > Baugh. If Baugh can score an unbeaten hundred against Australia, Simmons can theoretically score a double ton against England. Says nothing about Test credentials, because it wasn't a Test match. Of course my mathematics doesn't strictly apply to cricket, but there's a point in there somewhere.

 

[superkingdave]

ha, Bell gets his 50 and gets out. Hopefully Shah gets a ton...KP in, Wallace got Bell out, interested in following his career...obviously he should be behind Dave in the pecking order but he's one for the future maybe?

 

[Jigga988]

Hey, Simmons played a quality knock. Now he should go back to T&T and score at least 2-3 more tons this season. Because one innings cannot make a mediocre batsman a Test class batsman. Doesn't matter who it's against.

The way I see it: Australia > England, Simmons > Baugh. If Baugh can score an unbeaten hundred against Australia, Simmons can theoretically score a double ton against England. Says nothing about Test credentials, because it wasn't a Test match. Of course my mathematics doesn't strictly apply to cricket, but there's a point in there somewhere.

Ha, liking the innovative mathematics there... thats the effect uni has on people

 

[Jigga988]

ha, Bell gets his 50 and gets out. Hopefully Shah gets a ton...KP in, Wallace got Bell out, interested in following his career...obviously he should be behind Dave in the pecking order but he's one for the future maybe?

He'll just keep getting scores like that, i.e. forties anf fifties in the Windies and retain his spot in the Ashes where he'll get EXSPOSED big time... thought I'd add the big time just in case the exsposed in capital letters wasn't epic enough. Shah's the man right now... got to play from an England pov.

 

[sammy2]

Are you guys only using cricinfo for updates ?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

I haven't been using Cricinfo at all. Their scoring coverage is terrible. CaribbeanCricket.

 

[Jigga988]

Yeah, that and BBC sport

 

[superkingdave]

Guy on another forum who's listening to Am in St Kitts gives the best updates...think thats where Caribbean Cricket gets the updates from as well

 

[Craig]

Hey, Simmons played a quality knock. Now he should go back to T&T and score at least 2-3 more tons this season. Because one innings cannot make a mediocre batsman a Test class batsman. Doesn't matter who it's against.

The way I see it: Australia > England, Simmons > Baugh. If Baugh can score an unbeaten hundred against Australia, Simmons can theoretically score a double ton against England. Says nothing about Test credentials, because it wasn't a Test match. Of course my mathematics doesn't strictly apply to cricket, but there's a point in there somewhere.

Your right in what you say, but knowing the WI selectors Simmons will be making his Test debut in the first Test, not that it is the right thing. Anyway two questions for you Liam, is this Barath chap worth his salt as an opener and do you have a better fast bowler to replace Daren Powell?

 

[andruid]

Swann bowled 41 overs and didn't get a single wicket

 

[roseboy64]

Your right in what you say, but knowing the WI selectors Simmons will be making his Test debut in the first Test, not that it is the right thing. Anyway two questions for you Liam, is this Barath chap worth his salt as an opener and do you have a better fast bowler to replace Daren Powell?

Simmons won't play. Spinners lead the wicket charts in FC. Only one who'd be in contention who would definitely be better than Powell is Pedro Collins.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Yeah, that and BBC sport

The BBC lags the same as CricInfo. Takes forever to update half the time.