***Official*** South Africa In Australia

[Nate]

Hopes for Hughes and Hauritz for Heal.

Can understand the first, but why Hauritz for Heal? He has nothing over him imo.

 

[pup11]

That was a pathetic showing by Australia. Kept checking the score during the countdown and after some initial hope, it just kept getting dire. Drop Warner and open with Hopes and bring Hauritz in. D. Hussey isn't good enough to bowl one over, let alone the mass of overs he bowls. I think his bowling average is now over 100. Tait also is a specialist 20/20 bowler, don't think he should play any more, and Hiffelhaus just doesn't look up to international standard. Be glad when our first XI is fit again.

I mean why on earth are everyone blaming the bowlers, its the batsmen that have screwed up in all the games so far, its not as if that South African bowling was brilliant or anything, its just the Aussie batsmen were piss-poor, today's game is a perfect example, the pitch was as good for batting as one is likely to comes across and all that the Aussie batsmen managed were 222 runs, now that's truly a pathetic effort on a track like that, in other games too Australia ended up falling short by 30-40 runs of what they should have scored, and really no point in blaming the bowling.

 

[Mister Wright]

I mean why on earth are everyone blaming the bowlers, its the batsmen that have screwed up in all the games so far, its not as if that South African bowling was brilliant or anything, its just the Aussie batsmen were piss-poor, today's game is a perfect example, the pitch was as good for batting as one is likely to comes across and all that the Aussie batsmen managed were 222 runs, now that's truly a pathetic effort on a track like that, in other games too Australia ended up falling short by 30-40 runs of what they should have scored, and really no point in blaming the bowling.

The bowlers should be able to defend totals approaching 270. This is professional cricket at the highest level. Other than Bracken and at times Hopes, the other bowlers have been listless.

I agree, the batting has been poor and put simply the wrong players are playing, or they are out of position. Hopes is better used as an opener and Hussey closes innings so well, why is he batting at 4? Ponting's use of the batting power play has also been poor. But the sooner Hilfenhaus and Tait are replaced the better off Australia will be.

 

[TT Boy]

I mean why on earth are everyone blaming the bowlers, its the batsmen that have screwed up in all the games so far, its not as if that South African bowling was brilliant or anything, its just the Aussie batsmen were piss-poor, today's game is a perfect example, the pitch was as good for batting as one is likely to comes across and all that the Aussie batsmen managed were 222 runs, now that's truly a pathetic effort on a track like that, in other games too Australia ended up falling short by 30-40 runs of what they should have scored, and really no point in blaming the bowling.

They can’t be blamed today, wicket was a road but at Sydney there was a record chase achieved whilst even in the game they won at Hobart, they only took six wickets and hardly put the fear of God into the South Africans. Australia currently have nothing in the middle overs, a poor mans Mark Ealham or Mickey Mouse spinners such as Hauritz.

 

[pup11]

The bowlers should be able to defend totals approaching 270. This is professional cricket at the highest level. Other than Bracken and at times Hopes, the other bowlers have been listless.

I agree, the batting has been poor and put simply the wrong players are playing, or they are out of position. Hopes is better used as an opener and Hussey closes innings so well, why is he batting at 4? Ponting's use of the batting power play has also been poor. But the sooner Hilfenhaus and Tait are replaced the better off Australia will be.

You are taking one big factor out of account here, the batting powerplay, had it not been for the batting powerplay the Aussie bowlers might have very well done the job in the earlier games too, but Morkel ripped them apart in the batting powerplay.

You are being too harsh on Tait and Hilfenhaus, whereas Tait is making his comeback into international cricket, Hilfenhaus is just starting his career, and both did relatively well enough in the earlier games, i think Tait's problem are more related to his body rather then skills, whereas Hilfenhaus has been good with the new ball and in the middle overs (apart from today), and has copped bit of stick in the batting powerplay during the death overs.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

That's the third ODI tournament/series loss in Australia in a row. Now the cries will be louder than ever from Australian fans over Botha's action.

 

[pasag]

That's the third ODI tournament/series loss in Australia in a row. Now the cries will be louder than ever from Australian fans over Botha's action.

Nah, have wins against NZ (and Bang) in the middle there.

 

[pup11]

They can’t be blamed today, wicket was a road but at Sydney there was a record chase achieved whilst even in the game they won at Hobart, they only took six wickets and hardly put the fear of God into the South Africans. Australia currently have nothing in the middle overs, a poor mans Mark Ealham or Mickey Mouse spinners such as Hauritz.

Hauritz is a very decent OD spinner, not rating him in the longer form of the game is one thing, but Hauritz deserves to be the playing XI of the Aussie ODI side, he got whacked in the batting powerplay in the last game, otherwise it was him and Bracken who really brought Australia back into some sort of contention in the middle overs.

In Sydney one can say had the two catches been taken of Tait's first over, Australia could have been in a very commanding position from the very beginning, after that Gibbs took his chances and he gave South African innings the kind of momentum, due to which the chase became a lot easier for the rest of the middle order, i think such small mistakes are really what evetually cost you the game, the lack of precision in every department of the Australia game has been so evident that despite having the upper-hand most times this summer, the Aussies have just go on to chuck away the advantage later on.

 

[pup11]

Nah, have wins against NZ (and Bang) in the middle there.

Also did beat West Indies 5-0 at home....

 

[Matt79]

That's the third ODI tournament/series loss in Australia in a row. Now the cries will be louder than ever from Australian fans over Botha's action.

CretanNuffSaid tbh.

 

[social]

They can’t be blamed today, wicket was a road but at Sydney there was a record chase achieved whilst even in the game they won at Hobart, they only took six wickets and hardly put the fear of God into the South Africans. Australia currently have nothing in the middle overs, a poor mans Mark Ealham or Mickey Mouse spinners such as Hauritz.

All that is true but you are also talking about a combination of 2nd and 3rd stringers with some daft selections thrown in.

 

[TT Boy]

but Hauritz deserves to be the playing XI of the Aussie ODI side[/B], he got whacked in the batting powerplay in the last game, otherwise it was him and Bracken who really brought Australia back into some sort of contention in the middle overs.

In Sydney one can say had the two catches been taken of Tait's first over, Australia could have been in a very commanding position from the very beginning, after that Gibbs took his chances and he gave South African innings the kind of momentum, due to which the chase became a lot easier for the rest of the middle order.

He doesn't and it was refreshing to hear Bill Lawry on 9 call him out on his mediocrity.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

CretanNuffSaid tbh.

 

[pup11]

He doesn't and it was refreshing to hear Bill Lawry on 9 call him out on his mediocrity.

Well i have seen him bowl plenty of times for NSW and he has come across as a very decent OD bowler, Lawry can say anything he wants, but Australia are clearly are not in the era of Warne' or Gilchirst', so he should get used to seeing serviceable players like Hauritz turn up for Australia more often.

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

Also did beat West Indies 5-0 at home....

That was in WI though. A main factor for removing the triangular tournament as well as poor tv ratings in neutral games was due to the Australians winning the majority of the matches but losing the finals. Hence, CA created this new format but it's not going too well atm.

 

[Matt79]

Don't think I stuttered....

 

[Matt79]

That was in WI though. A main factor for removing the triangular tournament as well as poor tv ratings in neutral games was due to the Australians winning the majority of the matches but losing the finals. Hence, CA created this new format but it's not going too well atm.

Bizarre. Link to any reputable source for that particular claim?

 

[MendisNuffSaid]

Bizarre. Link to any reputable source for that particular claim?

I think it's quite obvious but of course James Sutherland didn't explicitly come out to a press conference and say that.

 

[Matt79]

So, you're just talking **** then. Good, just wanted to be clear on that.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I think it's quite obvious but of course James Sutherland didn't explicitly come out to a press conference and say that.

Aside from the fact that the wheels were in motion for the ridding of the Tri-Series before the series that England won, let alone last year when India won it?