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***Official India in New Zealand***
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Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Yes they are favourites. They are a better test team, and have won test matches away all over the world.
I can't recall the last time they won in New Zealand.
Athlai
Not Terrible
They haven't been quite this good (in both batting and bowling at the same time anyway) for quite some time, perhaps ever. We should hopefully give them a run for their money but expecting an outright Kiwi win is outrageous.
Craig
World Traveller
Why they didn't play Srinath in that Test series dumbfounded me, especially how well he bowled in the ODIs.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
Srinath had opted out of that Test series- as mentioned then by Boycs and Sidhu, beyond belief.
Arjun
Cricketer Of The Year
We can recall the last time they played in New Zealand- and that was a very long time ago.
I said earlier India SHOULD win. They are the better team. The point i'm making is that I don't think the Indians should be quite so confident. New Zealand is going to be completely foreign to them and the pitches arent going to be what they are used to. Just like India should win, New Zealand should prove to be a tough opponent in home conditions. India shouldnt expect a walkover.
And it was an absolute thrashing.
Precambrian
Banned
Hmm... ODIs yes, Tests were here-or-there stuff on dodgy pitches, though NZ were certainly the better team.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Says who? Granted the Basin Reserve block generally has a bit of bounce and sideways movement. But the Napier test will be played on Tarmac, as usual, and the Hamilton match will probably feature a slowish, but still good for batting, track with gradually increasing turn. The Indians will love it.
Didn't NZ win the two test match series 2-0? From memory, we did them both pretty comfortably as well. I'd call that a thrashing.
Don't know any pitches in New Zealand that don't have grass. Also don't know any that start crumbling, they generally don't deteriorate at all. Very different to Indian conditions.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
While we won the first match at a canter, the second one was decidedly dicey.
2nd Test: New Zealand v India at Hamilton, 19-23 Dec 2002
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
If you're suggesting that the kind of tracks that have been dished up at Napier and Hamilton in recent years will present problems to the Indian batsman, I think you're mistaken.
I said they would be foreign, I didn't say they would posess any problems for the batsmen, though in saying that they will have to adjust to the pace and bounce.
Bahnz
Hall of Fame Member
Well, a clear implication of the idea that they're foreign is that they will present problems. But anyway, I don't really think they will be that foreign. Napier will be just like a billion other flat track paradises. Hamilton will be a bit different, lower and slower for sure, but hardly terrifying and not that different to the kinds of tracks that the majority of India's players will have already experienced in the Caribbean and parts of the sub continent. The Basin will probably be the one place that generates something a bit different, so if the Indian's technique in foreign conditions is gonna be tested, it'll have to be done in the capital.
Having said that, we could wind up getting a month of rain like we did back in 2003, and get three green tops. One can only dream.
I still think there will be a period of adjustment, especially for their test specialists or batsmen who fail in the ODI's. Also, the conditions are different for their bowlers remember, lengths will be different and their spinners will be far less effective than usual. Sharma and Zaheer are really going to have to be on their game.
I still hold out hope that the groundsmen will be told to leave a little juice in the pitch. It sure would provide interesting cricket.
I still hold out hope that the groundsmen will be told to leave a little juice in the pitch. It sure would provide interesting cricket.
Precambrian
Banned
Yep. I really want to see some greentops for a change, and to bring some balance and justice for the hardworking fast bowlers. Hasn't seen one since the Ahmedabad one in early 2008, and that lasted just half the first day. I want to know where our openers, particularly Gambhir stands as regards to technique. And to see Ishant earn a well-overdue 10-wicket match haul.
Uppercut
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Lasted until India started bowling you mean?Also, it's not just about the pitches. The ball will tend to swing a lot more in New Zealand and it'll be a fair bit colder, and it's up to the Indians to adjust to it. They did a good job in England '07, but it took them one bailed-out-by-rain test to adjust. They might not get away with that this time round.