Would hope so but he quite often doesn't for England. The problem for Dimi is that I think he has been at his most efective for Hampshire opening the bowling. This is obviously something he will never get to do for England.(might go very badly if he did with the powerplays.) Still think he can do a good job for England in the middle overs.
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Personally I'd say so, but with Broad, Swann, Flintoff, Sidebottom, Patel and Collingwood also in the team it's not really necessary. Flintoff gives England the liberty to have one "free pick" as such, and Mascarenhas is a better option than any other batsman, bowler or bits-and-pieces all-rounder for the role.
Yeah that's true. I've heard him described as a "good dibbly-dobbler in the middle overs"- completely inaccurate. For Hampshire he's a front-line fast bowler in all forms of the game, and should offer a very real threat in the middle while still keeping it tight.
Jigga988
State 12th Man
Do'nt really see who he'd replace, Bell and Colly are pretty much permanent fixtures in the squad as well as Strauss and KP, and Shah, whilst maybe not performing as well as him in list A cricket, (though I am not sure) has been one of the few England players thats deserved his spot in the squad. Then I think next in line is Bopara so I don't really see where he'd fit in, dont really think he is all that good anyway tbh, despite what statistics say. Shah, Colly, KP > Trott
Davies, Strauss, Bopara = Trott, or better but all of these guys are in squad for bowling, keeping and of course captaining.
BoyBrumby
Englishman
I reckon Trott for Bell or Bopara would be the way to go. Trott's medium pace not embarrassed by the comparison to Bopara's either. Something like:
Davies+
Trott
Shah
Pietersen
Strauss*
Flintoff
Collingwood
Patel
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
for me. Collingwood lower than is ideal, but reckon he'd be more adept at forcing the pace late on with the lower order than the new captain.
Davies+
Trott
Shah
Pietersen
Strauss*
Flintoff
Collingwood
Patel
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
for me. Collingwood lower than is ideal, but reckon he'd be more adept at forcing the pace late on with the lower order than the new captain.
Jigga988
State 12th Man
Wouldn't be a bad side if you got rid of Patel for a nother seemer whether that be Harmy or Jimmy is debatable, personally I'd like Napier but thats not going to happen.
Still think Bopara is slightly better than Trott in every aspect, i.e. bowling batting and fielding.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Trott opened for Warwickshire last season (I think in part only) and never has before. IIRR, he was less exceptional last season than before.
Trott is another who could easily be wasted by being pitchforked into opening. God, you hope that if he plays he bats four or so.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
There's absolutely no way Bopara is a better one-day batsman than Trott. Bowling they're both diabolical and should never be expected to do anything other than get completely smashed in a ODI. Bopara isn't as good a fielder as you'd think he would be looking at him, though he is probably better than Trott who IIRR isn't any great shakes.
Both are, however, alike in their relatively unlikely prospects of making a good ODI opener.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Trott should stroll into the side infront of every other England batsman bar Pietersen.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I've been calling for Trott for ages, but he didn't have the greatest seson in 2008 and he's not even in the squad at the moment. I'd be picking him as soon as he showed any sign of form but it's not likely to happen.
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Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
If we look back at similar threads from the past, myself (and Im sure a few others) have called for Trott for the same reasons. There is not the depth of talent to ignore a player with his record. However, the reason for his exclusion is rumoured to be attitude and outlook. Maybe new management will bring him back into the fold but until the first move is made, and the situation is resolved, then Ill unfortunately still exclude him from my theoretical XI.
Thanks. I believe 7 is a very important position in both ODIs and Test (though the roles are different).
Unfortunately Collingwood has expressed how he wants to bat high and his ego has got involved. He is a perfect #7 for England and I wish guys could get away from the schoolboy idea that the best bat bats high and the worse bat lower. There are better ways to build a team than that.
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vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
No Karen Rolton, IMO.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Haha, awesome typo.
If Strauss is going to be in the team he has to open in my opinion.
Strauss*
Davies+
Pietersen
Bopara
Flintoff
Shah
Collingwood
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
Anderson
I haven't really seen much of Davies to be honest, but what little I have he has looked decent. If he has opened for his county then let him do that for England, if not then I'd have to think about who to jig around (probably drop Collingwood or Shah for a recognised opener).
Strauss*
Davies+
Pietersen
Bopara
Flintoff
Shah
Collingwood
Swann
Broad
Sidebottom
Anderson
I haven't really seen much of Davies to be honest, but what little I have he has looked decent. If he has opened for his county then let him do that for England, if not then I'd have to think about who to jig around (probably drop Collingwood or Shah for a recognised opener).
BoyBrumby
Englishman
537 List A runs @ 53.70. Hardly woeful, tbf.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
I actually thought it was much worse than that for some reason. He must have had a poor start or a poor finish because I distinctly remember him having a bad.. trot.. so to speak.
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aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Well to be fair Goughy. Given that Flintoff/Shah/Collingwood have the 5-7 position covered in the ODI team. Depending on match situation i think they all can rotate & make a solid # 7 depending on the task at hand...
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
He did. He certainly started off poorly, as I remember thinking "that's his chances blown for the moment... again".