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***Official West Indies in New Zealand***

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Imagine he didn't want to inherit a poisoned chalice. Will take a while for Bracwell's **** ups to be repaired.
 

Bahnz

Hall of Fame Member
Yep, that's about right. Perhaps in five or six years when his kids are a bit older. In the mean time, I'd like to see him take charge of one of the domestic sides.
 
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NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Thoughts on the Windies XI??

1 Chris Gayle
2 Sewnarine Chattergoon
3 Ramnaresh Sarwan
4 Xavier Marshall
5 Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6 Leon Johnson/Brendan Nash
7 Dinesh Ramdin
8 Jerome Taylor
9 Sulieman Benn/Lionel Baker/Kemar Roach
10 Daren Powell
11 Fidel Edwards

I think the 9 names standing alone will play certainly, only issues are number 6 without the injured Bravo and number 9, depending on pitch conditions, cause I guess Chris Gayle could bowl some spin if needed.

Who's better out of Roach or Baker?
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
Thoughts on the Windies XI??

1 Chris Gayle
2 Sewnarine Chattergoon
3 Ramnaresh Sarwan
4 Xavier Marshall
5 Shivnarine Chanderpaul
6 Leon Johnson/Brendan Nash
7 Dinesh Ramdin
8 Jerome Taylor
9 Sulieman Benn/Lionel Baker/Kemar Roach
10 Daren Powell
11 Fidel Edwards

I think the 9 names standing alone will play certainly, only issues are number 6 without the injured Bravo and number 9, depending on pitch conditions, cause I guess Chris Gayle could bowl some spin if needed.

Who's better out of Roach or Baker?
Xavier Marshall is one of test crickets poorest specialist batsmen at the moment.. How long can he be picked just on potential?
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Xavier Marshall is one of test crickets poorest specialist batsmen at the moment.. How long can he be picked just on potential?
He averaged 50 in his last test series against Australia, so he deserves a run in the test team. However, in ODI cricket he has performed awfully I completely agree and he will be dropped soon in that format.
 

Langeveldt

Soutie
He averaged 50 in his last test series against Australia, so he deserves a run in the test team. However, in ODI cricket he has performed awfully I completely agree and he will be dropped soon in that format.
getting my formats muddled up!
 

Woodster

International Captain
Not a massive fan of Marshall just yet, he looked well out of his depth when he first played for the WI ODI side against Australia, but of course he was, and that wasn't his fault. He looked quite exciting in the recent Test series against them, and was unfazed by Lee's intimidation, even inviting a few verbals. He seems to have all the shots, but also wants to play them all in one innings at the moment.

I'm thinking Nash will take the number 6 role, while Benn will offer the spin option in the side. Important role for Benn to give the skipper some control at various stages through the day, in theory.
 

Natman20

International Debutant
my NZ side now....

Redmond
Ryder
Taylor
How
McCullum
Oram
Franklin
Vettori
Mills
O'Brien
Martin


It doesn't look like a conventional line-up but hey, trying new things might be the difference. Why not have extra bowling when you know someone's batting is more than likely going to benefit the team?

Then you would have a bowling attack of:

Martin
O'Brien
Mills
Franklin
Vettori
Oram
(and Redmond, Ryder the part-timers!)

Which looks very strong, then you have a top order of:

Redmond - The slow and steady ship (hopefully)
Ryder - The aggressor and timer of the ball
Taylor - Proven stability (sort of)
How - Demoted to more middle order (the stayer in hard times, hopefully)
McCullum - The aggressor No. 2 (one that can knuckle down in hard times as well)
Oram - Rescuer and aggressor
Vettorri - Classy Batsman
Franklin - Who knows? Maybe more brilliance (if he plays better than all the batsmen in first-class cricket at the moment then it must mean something)
Mills - We all know he can stay around for a bit and whack it when he needs to.

And so that sums up my line-up and the reasons why. IMO there would be controlled balance in the batting line-up and there are many options available in terms of bowling. Likelihood of this line-up - 1 in 50 chance.
 
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Woodster

International Captain
Are Omari Banks and Corey Collymore both on Kolpak deals?
They certainly played over here in 2008. Banks at Somerset and Collymore at Sussex. Whether that runs into next year, I'm not sure.

Banks joined Somerset on a two-year deal, so should be there next year, unless his contract has been cancelled.
 
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NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
All this talk of a Marshall being good enough or not in a New Zealand thread gives me bad memories tbh.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
my NZ side now....

Redmond
Ryder
Taylor
How
McCullum
Oram
Franklin
Vettori
Mills
O'Brien
Martin


It doesn't look like a conventional line-up but hey, trying new things might be the difference. Why not have extra bowling when you know someone's batting is more than likely going to benefit the team?

Then you would have a bowling attack of:

Martin
O'Brien
Mills
Franklin
Vettori
Oram

Which looks very strong, then you have a top order of:

Redmond - The slow and steady ship (hopefully)
Ryder - The aggressor and timer of the ball
Taylor - Proven stability (sort of)
How - Demoted to more middle order (the stayer in hard times, hopefully)
McCullum - The aggressor No. 2 (one that can knuckle down in hard times as well)
Oram - Rescuer and aggressor
Vettorri - Classy Batsman
Franklin - Who knows? Maybe more brilliance (if he plays better than all the batsmen in first-class cricket at the moment then it must mean something)
Mills - We all know he can stay around for a bit and whack it when he needs to.

And so that sums up my line-up and the reasons why. IMO there would be controlled balance in the batting line-up and there are many options available in terms of bowling. Likelihood of this line-up - 1 in 50 chance.
What a bizarre line up. How in the middle order is an interesting theory. If it weren't for the fact he comprises one of the few things to resemble an opener at the moment it might just be worth the punt to see him in the middle order, but I wouldn't have him far away and bat him at 3, like he does in ODIs.
 

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
my NZ side now....

Redmond
Ryder
Taylor
How
McCullum
Oram
Franklin
Vettori
Mills
O'Brien
Martin


It doesn't look like a conventional line-up but hey, trying new things might be the difference. Why not have extra bowling when you know someone's batting is more than likely going to benefit the team?

Then you would have a bowling attack of:

Martin
O'Brien
Mills
Franklin
Vettori
Oram
(and Redmond, Ryder the part-timers!)

Which looks very strong, then you have a top order of:

Redmond - The slow and steady ship (hopefully)
Ryder - The aggressor and timer of the ball
Taylor - Proven stability (sort of)
How - Demoted to more middle order (the stayer in hard times, hopefully)
McCullum - The aggressor No. 2 (one that can knuckle down in hard times as well)
Oram - Rescuer and aggressor
Vettorri - Classy Batsman
Franklin - Who knows? Maybe more brilliance (if he plays better than all the batsmen in first-class cricket at the moment then it must mean something)
Mills - We all know he can stay around for a bit and whack it when he needs to.

And so that sums up my line-up and the reasons why. IMO there would be controlled balance in the batting line-up and there are many options available in terms of bowling. Likelihood of this line-up - 1 in 50 chance.
That is very strange. I cant for the life of me understand why you would want 6 genuine bowlers. That seems a bit much. IMO Oram should be the 4th seamer in the side, and if he cant bowl would be struggling t hold a place. SO vettori would be the 5th bowler and one of Martin, OBrien, or Mills would have to go.

I agree with Tailender up there, we have no opening batsmen so How should stay up there.

How
Guptill
Fulton/ in a few years Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Franklin
Southee
Sherlock/OBrien/Martin
 

GGG

State Captain
That is very strange. I cant for the life of me understand why you would want 6 genuine bowlers. That seems a bit much. IMO Oram should be the 4th seamer in the side, and if he cant bowl would be struggling t hold a place. SO vettori would be the 5th bowler and one of Martin, OBrien, or Mills would have to go.

I agree with Tailender up there, we have no opening batsmen so How should stay up there.

How
Guptill
Fulton/ in a few years Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Franklin
Southee
Sherlock/OBrien/Martin
Yeah I would of gone for that team if Guptill wasn't injured and O'Brien would be my number 11.
 

S.P. Fleming

U19 Cricketer
That is very strange. I cant for the life of me understand why you would want 6 genuine bowlers. That seems a bit much. IMO Oram should be the 4th seamer in the side, and if he cant bowl would be struggling t hold a place. SO vettori would be the 5th bowler and one of Martin, OBrien, or Mills would have to go.

I agree with Tailender up there, we have no opening batsmen so How should stay up there.

How
Guptill
Fulton/ in a few years Williamson
Taylor
Ryder
Oram
McCullum
Vettori
Franklin
Southee
Sherlock/OBrien/Martin
That is one of the best lineups in my opinion but it is very unlikely that Guptill would get the gig and that either O Brien or Martin be dropped
 

Matt52

U19 Vice-Captain
That is one of the best lineups in my opinion but it is very unlikely that Guptill would get the gig and that either O Brien or Martin be dropped
To be honest I dont know anything about Guptill, just a few people have said hes alright and with the other options are pretty dire.

But from what I heard Guptill will play against the West Indies on Friday for Auckland and if he gets a big score then who knows. Also, as Ive said before, the two openers chosen for the NZA team tour to india a couple of months ago were Redmond and Guptill. Redmond's already been called up and struggled so if they replace him, and if the selectors had any consistency, they might go with the other NZA opener as the next cab off the rank. If they rated him highly before then I would say he has a chance.

The selectors have changed, but McIntosh, Bell, etc weren't chosen for the NZA team, Guptill was. So he's got more of a show than it might seem.A lot will depend on Friday though.
 

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