England calls off tour....

[Uppercut]

India is very much the cricket epicentre and it simply cannot sustain without India.

I smell cow poo. It existed for a hundred years without India and it can exist for a hundred more without them.

 

[Precambrian]

I smell cow poo. It existed for a hundred years without India and it can exist for a hundred more without them.

Oh yes, it will. But not in the scale as it is now.

Why don't you sit back a but and give it a thought how it'd be in 10 years from now without India instead of making such motherhood statements?\\

Fact is during much of its period. cricket was the No.1 game in England and Australia, but now it is no more so. Oh, it will survive in all those lancashire leagues and county cricket, and the ocassional Ashes. But that will be it.

 

[BoyBrumby]

Oh yes, it will. But not in the scale as it is now.

Why don't you sit back a but and give it a thought how it'd be in 10 years from now without India instead of making such motherhood statements?\\

Fact is during much of its period. cricket was the No.1 game in England and Australia, but now it is no more so. Oh, it will survive in all those lancashire leagues and county cricket, and the ocassional Ashes. But that will be it.

To be fair I doubt it's ever been more popular here than football.

But I've no doubt the ECB are now beholden to the BCCI or more accurately the latter's money. If countries can be invaded for oil (read money) a cricketing tour going ahead after a terrorist attack isn't so difficult to imagine. As morally bankrupt as it would be.

 

[duffer]

If India gets weened off the international cricketing calendar like Pakistan has then I reckon I'd probably stop watching cricket. Maybe not completely stop but it'd be more of a passing interest thing for me.

*Sigh*, the NBA and Premiership football have never looked better to me than they do now.

 

[Richard]

I know it's been said before but terrorists are so often in a win-win position.

England tour? Oh well, I'm sure they had bigger concerns. England don't tour? Great, along with killing hundreds of (British and American) people they've also made life difficult for a few more of them, and strained Anglo-Indian relationships while they're at it.

 

[Uppercut]

I don't want them to tour. I think it would be unbelievably, grossly and disgustingly unfair on Pakistan, the players and the players' families to do so.

 

[Richard]

Yep, it would.

And countries not touring Pakistan, same as this, is a crying shame for the game.

I hate to see terrorists get what they're aiming for (even if teams refusing to tour India\Pakistan is hardly a top priority). Sadly, the threat of having your life taken is a powerful one for which there can be no absolute protection.

The biggest worry is that neither situation is likely to improve any time soon.

 

[nightprowler10]

*Sigh*, the NBA and Premiership football have never looked better to me than they do now.

I feel your pain.

 

[jeevan]

I don't want them to tour. I think it would be unbelievably, grossly and disgustingly unfair on Pakistan, the players and the players' families to do so.

You do realize that there is a strong possibility that the terrorists in question were all Pakistani and were trained by groups that have supporters in the Pakistani military establishment. Obviously this needs to be proven a little more, so far there is just pieces such as a terrorist captured live and cell phone records.

If this be the case, there is a very large difference between a security cover provided by the Indian establishment and that provided by the Pakistani establishment.

BTW also check the OT thread for strong connections between the PCB establishment and one of the mafia dons wanted by Interpol for terror attacks on Mumbai.

 

[Uppercut]

You do realize that there is a strong possibility that the terrorists in question were all Pakistani and were trained by groups that have supporters in the Pakistani military establishment. Obviously this needs to be proven a little more, so far there is just pieces such as a terrorist captured live and cell phone records.

If this be the case, there is a very large difference between a security cover provided by the Indian establishment and that provided by the Pakistani establishment.

BTW also check the OT thread for strong connections between the PCB establishment and one of the mafia dons wanted by Interpol for terror attacks on Mumbai.

Not interested mate. Try next door.

 

[jeevan]

Not interested mate. Try next door.

Sorry, then. Your use of the word "fair" had me fooled into thinking that you cared about such things. I do hope that not everybody shares your apathy.

 

[Langeveldt]

Oh yes, it will. But not in the scale as it is now.

Why don't you sit back a but and give it a thought how it'd be in 10 years from now without India instead of making such motherhood statements?\\

Fact is during much of its period. cricket was the No.1 game in England and Australia, but now it is no more so. Oh, it will survive in all those lancashire leagues and county cricket, and the ocassional Ashes. But that will be it.

Suits me fine..

 

[krkode]

Suits me fine..

I wonder if cricketers today would remain cricketers if it wasn't as lucrative anymore...

 

[Precambrian]

Yep, it would.

And countries not touring Pakistan, same as this, is a crying shame for the game.

I hate to see terrorists get what they're aiming for (even if teams refusing to tour India\Pakistan is hardly a top priority). Sadly, the threat of having your life taken is a powerful one for which there can be no absolute protection.

The biggest worry is that neither situation is likely to improve any time soon.

Would you tour if you were an English cricketer?

 

[biased indian]

What has suddenly changed the security scenario in india..this is not first of its kind attack in india....when england was currently touring india they were give protection givne to the visitng state of heads rite ..all the gorunds had security persons cheking for bombs even when the game was going on near the boundry lines. there is no more higher security that can be provided for the english team ....

i can understand if a player dont want to travel or not...but ECB should not call off the series..and if any player is not coming on tour i hope he wont be coming for IPL also

 

[Precambrian]

What has suddenly changed the security scenario in india..this is not first of its kind attack in india....when england was currently touring india they were give protection givne to the visitng state of heads rite ..all the gorunds had security persons cheking for bombs even when the game was going on near the boundry lines. there is no more higher security that can be provided for the english team ....

i can understand if a player dont want to travel or not...but ECB should not call off the series..and if any player is not coming on tour i hope he wont be coming for IPL also

Problem is this time around, terrorists have targeted British and Americans specifically.

 

[Sanz]

What has suddenly changed the security scenario in india..this is not first of its kind attack in india....when england was currently touring india they were give protection givne to the visitng state of heads rite ..all the gorunds had security persons cheking for bombs even when the game was going on near the boundry lines. there is no more higher security that can be provided for the english team ....

i can understand if a player dont want to travel or not...but ECB should not call off the series..and if any player is not coming on tour i hope he wont be coming for IPL also

What has changed this time is that the places attacked were/are the ones these players would stay at, dine at. That there were rumors of these terrorists specifically asking for people who had British/us passport.

I dont think one can blame ECB or anyone for taking the decision against touring India anytime soon.

 

[Xuhaib]

I don't want them to tour. I think it would be unbelievably, grossly and disgustingly unfair on Pakistan, the players and the players' families to do so.

This.

 

[biased indian]

What has changed this time is that the places attacked were/are the ones these players would stay at, dine at. That there were rumors of these terrorists specifically asking for people who had British/us passport.

I dont think one can blame ECB or anyone for taking the decision against touring India anytime soon.

i wont take into that ....thing is that they are already provided the best security that can be given for them...why are they provided that because they already had the fear that they could be attcked ...so what does this attck change the security perception ....if they dont tour i dont think they can tour india again at all...what will be the reason for them to tour again, india have suddenly become safe ..when these kind of attck has been going on for last 5-10 years

 

[Precambrian]

http://content-ind.cricinfo.com/indveng/content/current/story/380264.html

Mohali and Chennai emerges as two alternative venues.

Chennai