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And in McCullum's and maybe Ryder's case, play a daft shot and get caught.
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Johnners
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Watson rails again selection policy
Raises a good point, especially coming from a players perspective.
Raises a good point, especially coming from a players perspective.
Athlai
Not Terrible
All 3 of them can have brain explosions.
completeNZer
School Boy/Girl Captain
Hauritz to do well can see it now
Prince EWS
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TBH, as long as the players know exactly what's happening and why they've "dropped" each time, I don't see why it should be a problem. I'm all for continuity in selection but you can use this in conjuction with horses-for-courses as long as the logic behind selections is explained to players and they know whether they've been dropped because their performances are unexceptable or because there are better options for the balance of the team on certain surfaces.
I disagree with his point about all players being able to adapt, too, really. Sure, players will adapt with experience but an adapted player still might not suit the balance of the team in certain conditions as much as another player.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
Haha, hardly 'railing'.
It's nothing that the journo's didn't say a couple of days ago about the policy... and he's probably right in a way, there has to be some continuity.
And I think we all know he plays better with confidence, so it's not a surprising statement from him.
four_or_six
Cricketer Of The Year
I hope Watson got told he was dropped for lack of runs, and not because he's not suited to Adelaide. His Shield match there last seaon he scored 190 in his only innings and took 3/40 ish for the match.
Julian87
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As **** as Hauritz may be in the 4 day game atm; Casson is coming off injury, McGain is injured, people laughed at Krejza and he did ok, but now he's injured. And in the past two years the best two Australian wrist spinners since Benaud have retired from international cricket.
We're not doing too badly considering Brisbane is the only FC wicket in the country atm where batsman don't have to keep an eye out for Vespas and pedestrians.
We're not doing too badly considering Brisbane is the only FC wicket in the country atm where batsman don't have to keep an eye out for Vespas and pedestrians.
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Agree with Watto that there needs to be greater support from the selectors and players who earn their selection should be persevered with rather than a horses-for-courses selection. So, he shouldn't have been selected in the first place for Brisbane.
Thing is, I don't think this can really be considered a horses-for-courses selection. It's not as if any of the players being swapped around are Brisbane or Adelaide specialists. I can understand the idea of picking a bloke who's more of a swing bowler in Adelaide in some ways, especially since the weather looks like it'll be conducive but still, it'll be a road.....
Thing is, I don't think this can really be considered a horses-for-courses selection. It's not as if any of the players being swapped around are Brisbane or Adelaide specialists. I can understand the idea of picking a bloke who's more of a swing bowler in Adelaide in some ways, especially since the weather looks like it'll be conducive but still, it'll be a road.....
NZTailender
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Peter Siddle, apparently?
Really? Oh
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That was the point that Ponting was trying to make. It's easier to swing the ball in Brisbane than in Adelaide and you know there's not going to any bloody seam movement so his line of thinking is that you need to pick your best swing bowler so he'd have a chance at getting something out of the deck.
Or something. I dunno. Truth is, though, that the guys who've done best in Adelaide in years gone by have been guys who medium-paced swingers. Even Steve Waugh cleaned up a few years ago and Damien Fleming's Adelaide record would be pretty good. Maybe the recipe for some Adelaide success would be if someone like Stue Clark cuts his run-up and pace and tries to get more movement in the air?
Well...hopefully the guy who swung the ball the most in the Brisbane test (Southee) will keep his spot so we can see if there will be any swing. I still reckon picking your best bowlers is the way to go, regardless of what they do. I have no idea if Siddle is one of the best or not, but if he is then he should get a run.
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Be shocked if Southee gets dropped!
Siddle is a decent bowler and, in fairness, has a great record against SA in Adelaide (bastard). But yeah, I'm in the 'pick your best bowlers' camp.
Well...if Patel plays (which is being talked about) then it will likely be O'Brien or Southee to make way, and both had pretty good tests and because Southee is a swing bowler he would probably be the likely way to be dropped.
I thought Siddle looked pretty good in India, hits the pitch hard and bowls at a good clip. A very Australian type bowler.