This Krejza kid

[Nate]

Leave it Rich.

 

[Furball]

Dire posting from Richard.

 

[Richard]

 

[grapedo]

Stop being biased towrads your own country rich. Krejza is already a better spinner than giles.

 

[Precambrian]

Wondered if anyone might remember that.

Basically, the reason is that Giles bowled well and did not get carted by the top-order. Krejza was bashed all innings, had terrible figures, then got some end-of-innings wickets that made them look good.

Jeez, did you notice that he got 8 wickets???? He was carted because he came in too early against an unstoppable Sehwag, with an attacking field.

 

[Top_Cat]

Jeez, did you notice that he got 8 wickets???? He was carted because he came in too early against an unstoppable Sehwag, with an attacking field.

Yeah that's right, although I definitely still rate Giles the better performer overall, Krejza bowled quite well after the initial onslaught.

 

[Richard]

Haha, Krejza is exceptionally unlikely to ever be half as good as Giles.

His strike-rate on turning pitches might be slightly up. His average has almost no chance of being.

 

[Precambrian]

Haha, Krejza is exceptionally unlikely to ever be half as good as Giles.

His strike-rate on turning pitches might be slightly up. His average has almost no chance of being.

He may or may not. But he has done nothing to suggest that he;ll be extremely terrible either.

 

[Richard]

A First-Class average of all but 50 suggests otherwise.

Krejza's only chance as a Test bowler is that he's selected wisely - only picked on turning surfaces. Given that turning surfaces outside the subcontinent are extremely rare, and given that Krejza will almost certainly play more than just the odd Test (possibly just for a year or so, maybe less) outside the subcontinent, I don't see him lasting long as a Test bowler.

 

[Precambrian]

A First-Class average of all but 50 suggests otherwise.

Krejza's only chance as a Test bowler is that he's selected wisely - only picked on turning surfaces. Given that turning surfaces outside the subcontinent are extremely rare, and given that Krejza will almost certainly play more than just the odd Test (possibly just for a year or so, maybe less) outside the subcontinent, I don't see him lasting long as a Test bowler.

Obviously because the Australian pitches he played on never supported a fingerspinner, which is supported by the averages of other finger spinners in Australia.

He has done what was needed of him in the test, and doing that in both innings was not a fluke. I think he deserves a longer go in tests before writing him off.

 

[Richard]

If he plays Tests in Australia, his First-Class record shows a very strong suggestion of what is likely to happen.

Not that I'd object to seeing such a thing happen at all - I want it shown conclusively that Krejza is only of use on a turning surface and is utter fodder on a non-turner. However, those who want Australia to win Tests will rather understandably take a different view.

 

[aussie]

A First-Class average of all but 50 suggests otherwise.

Krejza's only chance as a Test bowler is that he's selected wisely - only picked on turning surfaces. Given that turning surfaces outside the subcontinent are extremely rare, and given that Krejza will almost certainly play more than just the odd Test (possibly just for a year or so, maybe less) outside the subcontinent, I don't see him lasting long as a Test bowler.

Way too early to make any solid predictions on Krejza...

 

[Richard]

Not really, he's been playing Australian First-Class cricket for a few years now, and for more than one state.

 

[Top_Cat]

Not really, he's been playing Australian First-Class cricket for a few years now, and for more than one state.

Making the mistake of reading too much into his FC bowling average. Some blokes with a bowling average half his you'd never back to take 8-fer in a Test, especially considering virtually all of the wickets were beaten on the defense, not caught on the fence trying to heave him out of the ground. I'm not backing him to be a genius bowler but I'd certainly back him, if he bowls a similar proportion of the top-class deliveries he did in Nagpur, to take at least 10 runs off his FC average by career's end. That he's one of the few FC finger-spinners to be picked at all, let alone consistently picked for his state says a fair bit.

Either way, waaaaay to early to be dismissing him especially since I doubt you saw a ball he bowled. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

 

[Top_Cat]

Obviously because the Australian pitches he played on never supported a fingerspinner, which is supported by the averages of other finger spinners in Australia.

And that's if they get picked too which most spinners in Aus FC cricket either don't or do, get spanked or go wicket-less and get dropped.

He has done what was needed of him in the test, and doing that in both innings was not a fluke. I think he deserves a longer go in tests before writing him off.

Yup.

 

[Richard]

Making the mistake of reading too much into his FC bowling average. Some blokes with a bowling average half his you'd never back to take 8-fer in a Test, especially considering virtually all of the wickets were beaten on the defense, not caught on the fence trying to heave him out of the ground. I'm not backing him to be a genius bowler but I'd certainly back him, if he bowls a similar proportion of the top-class deliveries he did in Nagpur, to take at least 10 runs off his FC average by career's end. That he's one of the few FC finger-spinners to be picked at all, let alone consistently picked for his state says a fair bit.

It's been noted, though, that to perform that way he needs a turning pitch - and even if he gets one, he won't always bowl that well. Unless that improves, his average is likely to stay the same.

Just because he happened to do it on Test debut doesn't mean he neccessarily will do it very often.

Either way, waaaaay to early to be dismissing him especially since I doubt you saw a ball he bowled. If I'm wrong, feel free to correct me.

I saw plenty of 'em TBH.

 

[grapedo]

Dire posting from Richard.

He is just doinh his usual thing.