**Official** New Zealand in Australia

[Craig]

Adelaide:

How
Redmond
Fulton
Ryder
Taylor
Flynn
+McCullum
*Vettori
O'Brien
Southee
Martin

More balanced and the batting has more depth and if we are relying on 9, 10, 11 to get the runs then we are ****** anyway.

IMO.

 

[Craig]

hingston ?

Forum poster Langeveldt aka Richard Hingston (his real name).

 

[Rant0r]

Did much as the same as White did in India - batted too low to be of any use, wasn't bowled much and when did didn't do too well.

i'll take elliott you can take white and those pies he bowled in india, ie the one that nearly missed the pitch and went for four...

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

Adelaide:

How
Redmond
Fulton
Ryder
Taylor
Flynn
+McCullum
*Vettori
O'Brien
Southee
Martin

More balanced and the batting has more depth and if we are relying on 9, 10, 11 to get the runs then we are ****** anyway.

IMO.

Patel in for Martin, and Ryder as the 5th bowling option.

 

[NZTailender]

Adelaide:

How
Redmond
Fulton
Ryder
Taylor
Flynn
+McCullum
*Vettori
O'Brien
Southee
Martin

More balanced and the batting has more depth and if we are relying on 9, 10, 11 to get the runs then we are ****** anyway.

IMO.

Would keep Taylor at 4 and have Ryder at 6 tbh. Flynn obviously takes a long time to get going, and has finished not out a few times, so we could get more out of him if he comes in earlier.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

i'll take elliott you can take white and those pies he bowled in india, ie the one that nearly missed the pitch and went for four...

A good trade. I'll take White and use him as a batsman only.

 

[Rant0r]

Forum poster Langeveldt aka Richard Hingston (his real name).

ahh, thought there might be something far more amusing behind it

 

[Craig]

Exactly. If it was 143/4 we were in with a great chance. 143/5 and you just have to hope that Elliott can just stay there and offer some support for Taylor, and atleast Elliot could be the "start of session wicket" and everything will all be OK.

Now, with 143/6 we only have Vettori and Taylor left. Atleast one wicket will fall in the first 5 overs tomorrow, and there is no Elliott type player that I wouldnt mind being that wicket. Both Vettori and Taylor are starting from scratch, they basically have to get through to lunch unscathed to have any chance. I cant really see that happening.

It really shows how much our dismal collapse in our first innings has affected the outcome of the match. If only we had battled a little harder, if only we didnt have Elliott in the team to do squat all. All we needed was to get as close to the Australian score as possible, we fell 40-45 runs too short.

Its gonna be a tough ask, I have hope, but can only think of what could have been.

AWTA. The one that got away IMO.

If it was a team like SA or India (or England) then they would not have allowed Australia back into the game that easy.

 

[NZTailender]

i'll take elliott you can take white and those pies he bowled in india, ie the one that nearly missed the pitch and went for four...

Would happily take White for Elliott in Tests, wouldn't bowl him at all though.

 

[Rant0r]

A good trade. I'll take White and use him as a batsman only.

i wouldn't even take him for that

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

i wouldn't even take him for that

 

[NZTailender]

AWTA. The one that got away IMO.

If it was a team like SA or India (or England) then they would not have allowed Australia back into the game that easy.

I have a feeling this series will be more closely fought than the Aus-RSA one, with RSA being on the losing end.

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

I have a feeling this series will be more closely fought than the Aus-RSA one, with RSA being on the losing end.

Same here.

 

[NZTailender]

i wouldn't even take him for that

White is actually a skilled batsman though - averages over 40 in First Class cricket compared to Elliott's 30. Wouldn't judge him on batting at 8 in his debut series where the other, more established and better batsman like Ponting and Hayden did poorly.

 

[Rant0r]

rsa>aus>nz on current form

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

rsa>aus>nz on current form

It's not as simple as that. I feel RSA will struggle more than NZ, and it has nothing to do with form.

 

[Rant0r]

White is actually a skilled batsman though - averages over 40 in First Class cricket compared to Elliott's 30. Wouldn't judge him on batting at 8 in his debut series where the other, more established and better batsman like Ponting and Hayden did poorly.

white's a slogger with a good eye, plenty of batsmen to chose from in australia who average that or much higher in the best domestic competition in australia, and going by recent results, they might want a tight well honed technique against the moving ball, which white does not.

 

[Rant0r]

It's not as simple as that. I feel RSA will struggle more than NZ, and it has nothing to do with form.

what does it have to do with ?

 

[KiWiNiNjA]

white's a slogger with a good eye, plenty of batsmen to chose from in australia who average that or much higher in the best domestic competition in australia, and going by recent results, they might want a tight well honed technique against the moving ball, which white does not.

It has nothing to do wtih other batsman. You wanted to swap White with Elliott, which is crazy.

 

[NZTailender]

It's not as simple as that. I feel RSA will struggle more than NZ, and it has nothing to do with form.

I distinctly remember in the 01/02 season Tony Greig saying during the third test between Aus and NZ whilst the camera was on some RSA players in the crowd or nets (can't exactly remember which) that they were the real test and what everyone is looking forward to.

South Africa really delivered on that front.