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***Official England in India***
- Thread starter George.Hinton
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G.I.Joe
International Coach
Isn't stubbornness a trait of Geoffrey's?..Quite a few posters on this forum are damn stubborn. Not implying anything, just saying....
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
While it suffices to say that Anderson last summer in Tests > Anderson in ODIs at any point in his career, I (as you know) am still to be convinced of his long-term Test viability.I'd be happy for him to never play another ODI if he continues to bowl like he did in Tests this summer, where his figures did not do him justice. Jimmy
Like Brett Lee, it'll take more than one good season, however good that season may be, to change my mind.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Lee was 31 (or all but) TBH.
Anyway, the point isn't about age, it's about how much 1 good season after many poor ones proves. Even though 26 is younger than 31, both of them are at a "have been around for a bit" level, and you'd have expected a player of either age to do something more in that time than be utterly hopeless (as Lee and Anderson both were). What's more, a year is a year (and no longer) however old you are.
Heck, even a 22-year-old who's had one good season I'd not be jumping in screaming how brilliant he was going to be either. One good season (or year) doesn't prove a great deal. Many people have had such things and done little else all career.
Oh, and I'm certainly not lacking in faith. It's not like I'm expecting Lee or Anderson to go downhill again immediately after their good year (though Lee's India tour means it's a question which is being asked now, and he'll have to provide an answer in the next 8 games this season). I'm just not as convinced as some people are that such a short period of success is indication of a corner being turned.
Anyway, the point isn't about age, it's about how much 1 good season after many poor ones proves. Even though 26 is younger than 31, both of them are at a "have been around for a bit" level, and you'd have expected a player of either age to do something more in that time than be utterly hopeless (as Lee and Anderson both were). What's more, a year is a year (and no longer) however old you are.
Heck, even a 22-year-old who's had one good season I'd not be jumping in screaming how brilliant he was going to be either. One good season (or year) doesn't prove a great deal. Many people have had such things and done little else all career.
Oh, and I'm certainly not lacking in faith. It's not like I'm expecting Lee or Anderson to go downhill again immediately after their good year (though Lee's India tour means it's a question which is being asked now, and he'll have to provide an answer in the next 8 games this season). I'm just not as convinced as some people are that such a short period of success is indication of a corner being turned.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
A year is of course a year. If you're 50, it's 2% of your life, and if you're 2, it's 50%. Therefore, the longer your career, the less we would read into shorter periods of success, IMO.
Plus it's not like Anderson had never looked decent. He simply went from one devatstating spell per series mixed up some okay performances and some 6.8 per over 2-123 to a consistent summer, where he took regular wickets but bowled very well even when he didn't (Headingley, for example). But this didn't come out of nowhere, it was simply the consistency we had all been screaming for.
Of course he has to still keep this up further, but you should be a lot more hopeful of him doing so than you were this time last year.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
So you make posts designed to mock something that might or might not have been said, which you can't be bothered to find-out whether it has or not. Nice attitude.
It might be better in future to actually wait and see if anyone has said something before assuming that everyone on CW holds the same ideas as Geoff Boycott.
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
Oh, I am, fo' sho'. But the consideration of that possibility has merely moved from remote to under consideration. Quite a few people seem to now be almost certain he's on his way to being a World-class bowler. Which he just isn't, yet.
Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
Nor a specialist bowler.
superkingdave
Hall of Fame Member
Cricbuzz is working, India 4-1 with Sehwag bowled by Broad
Burgey
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Christ, what time is it in England?
Richard
Cricket Web Staff Member
That post was made at 3:39 in the UK, and this at 3:40.
TT Boy
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IndGunner
First Class Debutant
Well the curator did say this would be a 300+ wicket. so maybe we should wait and see.