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Who do you think will replace Ganguly?

Who will replace Ganguly for the first Test against England?

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gettingbetter

gettingbetter

State Vice-Captain
Precambrian said:
The answer lies in sheer technique. And that Rohit is improving his application at the crease, which is the main reason for him to be having a low average. Raina is a sitting duck when it comes to hard bouncy tracks, he doesnt have a pull shot or hook shot, despite that always tries to, and fails.
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Urgh. I hate it when people talk like this. Its not as though Raina's technqiue is that far behind Rohit's any way. And what does it matter if his shortcomings have not inhibited how well he bats - bare in mind, as I pointed out earlier, Raina has scored more runs than Rohit in all aspects and forms of cricket. Darren Ganga has a solid technique too you know.
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Precambrian said:
:sick: Technique!
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His technique is not as bad as his penchanht for playing strokes makes people think. We tend to think that players who play the slow waiting game are somehow better (technique-wise) than those that go for strokes.

Raina plays well off both feet. He moves well back or forward. Can defend against the short-pitched rising delivery with a straight bat (something that yuvraj finds difficult to do) and plays his strokes with a straight face which comes from a good stance and grip on the bat.

And remember he is fourth on that shortlist of four.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
gettingbetter said:
Urgh. I hate it when people talk like this. Its not as though Raina's technqiue is that far behind Rohit's any way. And what does it matter if his shortcomings have not inhibited how well he bats - bare in mind, as I pointed out earlier, Raina has scored more runs than Rohit in all aspects and forms of cricket. Darren Ganga has a solid technique too you know.
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I don't think a definite judgement needs to be passed on Raina until he's had some experience outside the subcontinent. And also to be noted that Rohit has 2 years less exp than Raina. Who knows how will Rohit blossom in the future? And to say these two would co-exist rather than compete with each other in the future.
 
gettingbetter

gettingbetter

State Vice-Captain
Precambrian said:
I don't think a definite judgement needs to be passed on Raina until he's had some experience outside the subcontinent. And also to be noted that Rohit has 2 years less exp than Raina. Who knows how will Rohit blossom in the future? And to say these two would co-exist rather than compete with each other in the future.
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Exactly. Who knows? No one really does, but from what they both have done, I think most people would feel comfortable with what they know Raina has done, compared to what Rohit could do.

The two years doesn't mean much. Rohit has probably done more than Badrinath at the same age, does that make him more qualified for the position? And just FTR, ATM they are competing amongst others for the position, I can see them developing a good partnership once the others have gone.
 
Lambu

Lambu

U19 Debutant
Having watched raina over the years and having supported from the first time i saw him in SL when Greg took over, i can say that claims that he struggles against short pitched stuff is a joke.Infact his backfoot play is a refreshing change as far as Indian batting is concerned.Basing your judgements on one useless Asia cup match where he got out to an well played pull shot,which he happened time too well is incredibly foolish esp when Rohit keeps getting out multiple times to the short pitched stuff from the like of James Hopes.But i don't see people talking of his weakness being the short ball..Mind you backfoot play doesn't include only horizontal batshots..people should see how Raina is good at manipulating delievries off the backfoot for ones and twos which other Indian batsmen would let go harmessly.And lets not forget that he played Mendis best among all Indian batsmen recently.

Anyway judging your opinion on one dismissal is just unacceptable..but some of us Indian supporters refuse to learn.

Oh and just for the record,i think both are good batsmen and will co-exist and not compete in the future.And i also think that both are decent players of pull/hook shots..something lacking in many Indian batsmen's gameplay.It just so happens that Raina is better in some aspects and Rohit is better in certain other aspects.Both are fairly all round batsmen.
 
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Lambu

Lambu

U19 Debutant
Precambrian said:
I don't think a definite judgement needs to be passed on Raina until he's had some experience outside the subcontinent. And also to be noted that Rohit has 2 years less exp than Raina. Who knows how will Rohit blossom in the future? And to say these two would co-exist rather than compete with each other in the future.
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Raina has had good performances in A tours to SA and the emergin players tournament in Aus recently..it certainly pisses me off when people make ridiculous statements like these.One should not apply different yardsticks to different people..On what basis can you say that Raina is less likely to succeed than Rohit on foreign pitches?
 
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Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
Lambu said:
Raina has had good performances in A tours to SA and the emergin players tournament in Aus recently..it certainly pisses me off when people make ridiculous statements like these.One should not apply different yardsticks to different people..On what basis can you say that Raina is less likely to succeed than Rohit on foreign pitches?
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His back foot play. Your argument holds valid had it been evidenced. All his dismissals in the recent period points out to one fact: He's crap on the pull. He may get away with a six on shorter grounds, but in the long run, unless he improves that, he'll struggle.

Rohit? Just one game will suffice, The CB series first final. His technique has no problems, but his temperament is what really putting out of a test position now. He needs to beef up his FC averages, Get some runs.
 
Precambrian

Precambrian

Banned
Lambu said:
Having watched raina over the years and having supported from the first time i saw him in SL when Greg took over, i can say that claims that he struggles against short pitched stuff is a joke.Infact his backfoot play is a refreshing change as far as Indian batting is concerned.Basing your judgements on one useless Asia cup match where he got out to an well played pull shot,which he happened time too well is incredibly foolish esp when Rohit keeps getting out multiple times to the short pitched stuff from the like of James Hopes.But i don't see people talking of his weakness being the short ball..Mind you backfoot play doesn't include only horizontal batshots..people should see how Raina is good at manipulating delievries off the backfoot for ones and twos which other Indian batsmen would let go harmessly.And lets not forget that he played Mendis best among all Indian batsmen recently.

Anyway judging your opinion on one dismissal is just unacceptable..but some of us Indian supporters refuse to learn.

Oh and just for the record,i think both are good batsmen and will co-exist and not compete in the future.And i also think that both are decent players of pull/hook shots..something lacking in many Indian batsmen's gameplay.It just so happens that Raina is better in some aspects and Rohit is better in certain other aspects.Both are fairly all round batsmen.
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:laugh: at Raina dominating Mendis. Relatively when compared to Yuvraj.
 
Lambu

Lambu

U19 Debutant
Precambrian said:
His back foot play. Your argument holds valid had it been evidenced. All his dismissals in the recent period points out to one fact: He's crap on the pull. He may get away with a six on shorter grounds, but in the long run, unless he improves that, he'll struggle.

Rohit? Just one game will suffice, The CB series first final. His technique has no problems, but his temperament is what really putting out of a test position now. He needs to beef up his FC averages, Get some runs.
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:laugh:
 
G

grapedo

Banned
I think rohit sharma as he batted really well agaianst australia where as badrinath has not played as he has not played much
 
IndGunner

IndGunner

First Class Debutant
gettingbetter said:
Sab but true. Although he was selected for the Pakistan game and the Melbourne test due to 20/20 performances. Maybe the selectors won't make the same mistake twice.
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you would hope not but then again we do speak of the BCCI do we not so i would say he's in unless he starts to back fire and gets back to back ducks or something/.
 
Jonty Lathwal

Jonty Lathwal

U19 Debutant
looking at his current form......Yuvraj is the best candidate but Kaif is not far behind......

I don't know why there has been no vote for Kaif.........Has everyone forgotten him????
 
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