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honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
Actually, as far as I can see, that isnt correct.

This was negotiated with a reciprical tour for 2011 which will be 5 ODIs, 4 Tests and 1 T20.

Apart from it not being part of the agreement, you make it sound as if England wanted 7 ODIs in 2007. That was an Indian provision and not something England wanted to have reciprocated.

Changing subjects for a second. Is it reciprical or reciprocal?
Didn't know of that.. Still hate that in this day and age, they could have celebrated Christmas in India with their families.. Maybe in a place like Goa or something..



But, BCCI are jerks for insisting on so many ODIs at the costs of Tests... 3rd test in Chennai would have been sweeeeeettt... (with a better wicket, of course :) )
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Another at Chennai? It's an absolute travesty that Kolkata is not getting Test matches purely due to political isolation of Dalmiya. BCCI are total assholes. Eden Gardens deserves Tests.
 

pup11

International Coach
Another at Chennai? It's an absolute travesty that Kolkata is not getting Test matches purely due to political isolation of Dalmiya. BCCI are total assholes. Eden Gardens deserves Tests.
Yeah its almost been ages since any international game was played at the Gardens, now that' pretty much a joke that the BCCI are robbing the cricket loving of Kolkata of good quality international cricket due to some political issue, would have loved to see Australia playing a test there on this tour.
 

andruid

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah pretty ridiculous to play a 7 match ODI series, they seem to go on and on for ever and ever, gets pretty exhausting even following it after a while, and as has already been said, i too would have loved to see another test added, because i personally find a two test series a pretty futile exercise, but obviously the two ODI' would earn BCCI more money then one test so they obviously would never shorten the ODI series to a 5 match ODI series.
I am of the coniction that ifone must have more than 5 ODIs in the same series then there should be a third team.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Good point.
However Kumble can be erased from that considering he could never be expected to perform anything more than what Mishy is doing now.

As for Dravid, I don't think he'll be dropped, those are huge boots to fill. So he will go to domestic, and get a century or two and come back primed for the series.

Only worry is who will do in for Ganguly. Ideally would want a southpaw at that number. And Yuvraj is nowhere near Ganguly despite the latter's obvious problems.
Rather than just make a replacement man for man, they need to look at what's missing in the Indian team. Their fielding has been patchy, and the failure of the Aussies in the same is no excuse. They seem to carry at least one liability on the field and most batting sides are crafty enough to spot it and score bonus runs. What's even more disturbing is that some of their better fielders are also error-prone. We've seen good displays of fielding from the likes of Ishant, RP Singh, Irfan and Gambhir, but they've also floored catches at times, or letting through extra singles and boundaries. Throwing on the stumps is another area of concern. There's not much to do to change the team, but the methods and possibly the support staff need to be changed.

Add to that the lack of a genuine all-rounder. When they've played six batsmen and four bowlers on a batting-friendly pitch, their bowling attack, not mediocre by any means, has been found wanting- primarily because it's under-manned. Conversely, in the few matches where the Indians have played five bowlers, they had to have Irfan Pathan, then struggling to take wickets, or else they had a long tail. This is a matter that needs to be addressed more than replacements for the Fab Four, as even as the Fab Four played so much together, the absence of a replacement for Kapil Dev and Prabhakar still weakened the team.

While everyone's over the moon (the moon now holds something special for India) over Zaheer and Ishant, let's not forget how much hope we had from the likes of Irfan, Balaji, Sreesanth and RP Singh. Now the task is to maintain these two and also get back some of the old pacers (especially Irfan) back in the fold, to keep the attack strong.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Arjun said:
Add to that the lack of a genuine all-rounder. When they've played six batsmen and four bowlers on a batting-friendly pitch, their bowling attack, not mediocre by any means, has been found wanting- primarily because it's under-manned. Conversely, in the few matches where the Indians have played five bowlers, they had to have Irfan Pathan, then struggling to take wickets, or else they had a long tail. This is a matter that needs to be addressed more than replacements for the Fab Four, as even as the Fab Four played so much together, the absence of a replacement for Kapil Dev and Prabhakar still weakened the team.
Sehwag's bowling is definitely good enough to be the fifth option as far as I'm concerned. He probably needs to bowl a little more to justify that comment but if this series is anything to go, that'll start happening.

He's not in the specialist-bowler league but he doesn't have to be.
 

Precambrian

Banned
There is a match going on between Mumbai Cricket Association XI and England XI.

MCA XI has batted first and scored 222 in 50 overs, in reply to which, if Cricinfo can be believed, England has slumped to 60-8.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Oh dear, what a drubbing. Beaten by a Mumbai XI team without much star power. You know that England are going to fire up and come back strong, but at this stage the signs for England are worrying.

India even without Sachin Tendulkar are a pretty decent ODI side. I hope Raina and Gambhir have big series and that Ishant and Zaheer continue their good work. It'll be a really interesting series to watch, I can't wait.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
The team announced is for the first 3 ODI's only think they will rest sharma and zaheer for atleast the last 3-4 games
I'd imagine so as well. Ishant Sharma is going to play the first 3 games anyway. Once the series is looking comfortable for India, we will probably choose to play Munaf Patel or RP Singh or possibly play with two spinners.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
If this was a proper 11-a-side game that'd be embarrassing... but being a pointless near-waste-of-time net-in-the-middle 12-a-sider, I just could not give a stuff.

Roll on the ODIs.
 

biased indian

International Coach
Having "succesfully" backed India to beat Australia, I'll now back England to emerge triumphant fron this series.

Quite simply, they have a much better bowling attack and are fresher.

India are also faced with losing Kumble, Ganguly and possibly Dravid and the quality of their replacements is debatable.
True england have a better line up..but australia coming into the series had a even better fast bowling unit ..so let see how much they deliver don think panaser is going to trouble indian batsmen much think he will be bowling half of his overs around the stumps

But the real decider of the series will be how english batsmen are going to tackle the indian spinners.india also have decent fast bowlers now..but i have a feeling that english batsmen will strgulle more than the aussies did aganist harbhajan and praticulary mishra
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I'd be very surprised if they don't.

Especially if the pitches turn properly. Have seen nice turners at both the Brabourne and Motera before now, as well as non-turners, so it's certainly possible.

MSP needs to look better than anodyne if they do, else some serious questions need to be asked of him.
 

Precambrian

Banned
My My!!! 98 all out!!! Tell 'em there are no millions at stake!!!

Positives Flintoff, Harmy, Anderson all had a decent workout.
 

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