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***Official England in India***
- Thread starter George.Hinton
- Start date
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
AWTA fully. No point in playing Sharma for seven ODIs that will be forgotten 4 seconds after they end. They rested Tendulkar - fast bowlers need rest even more.
I don't think they'd rest Dhoni now that he has just become the full time captain in both formats (though he was before in ODIs), but I'd be in favor of it if they did. Definitely Sharma though.
Precambrian
Banned
Yeah 7 ODIs is a joke. They could have reduced that to 5 and add one more test. Stupid BCCI.
Ishy needs rest definitely. And I think he will get it, considering India's willingness to experiment on the pace front. Munaf and RP can do fine. And save Ishy for the tests. Too much exposure otherwise.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I think the BCCI wanted three Tests but England players wanted to go home for Christmas. The 7 ODI definitely has BCCI written all over it though.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah.
India said that there had to be 7 ODIs
England said they had to be home by Christmas
If India would have allowed 5 ODIs then there could have been a 3rd Test, if England were willing to be away over Christmas then there could have been a 3rd Test.
As it was, both sides stuck to their positions and we now have 2 Tests, 7 ODIs and England players home for Christmas.
Everyone wins apart from the fans
Precambrian
Banned
Oh. I think BCCI should have cut 2 ODIs then and add 1 test. Ridiculous they gloat about Test being the first priority and do just the opposite.
pup11
International Coach
Yeah pretty ridiculous to play a 7 match ODI series, they seem to go on and on for ever and ever, gets pretty exhausting even following it after a while, and as has already been said, i too would have loved to see another test added, because i personally find a two test series a pretty futile exercise, but obviously the two ODI' would earn BCCI more money then one test so they obviously would never shorten the ODI series to a 5 match ODI series.
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
They have a bilateral arrangement.. India played 3 tests and 7 ODIs when they were in England last and it is supposed to be reciprocated..
Indians have been away from home for Diwali so many times.. Time England act as professionals, tbh... It is not like they cant have their families over in India for Christmas or whatever....
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
If they are prepared to be away for Xmas to tour Australia then similarly they should do so for a tour of India. Their families joining them on tour gets a (N) from me though.
Don't even know why this tour is even happening - is it even part of the FTP, we were only there in 06?
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Actually, as far as I can see, that isnt correct.
This was negotiated with a reciprical tour for 2011 which will be 5 ODIs, 4 Tests and 1 T20.
Apart from it not being part of the agreement, you make it sound as if England wanted 7 ODIs in 2007. That was an Indian provision and not something England wanted to have reciprocated.
Changing subjects for a second. Is it reciprical or reciprocal?
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Yeah, this one was part of a new agreement which isnt related to any previous tours. England wanted 5 ODIs and 3 Tests. India said no and offered 7 ODIs and 3 Tests but insisted that there had to be 7 ODIs.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Maybe this isn't possible but can't England fly home for a week or two and then play a third Test coming back? It'd be a hassle but fans would be better served.
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
And then jump on a plane and go straight to the West Indies?
England are already weeks into a Winter schedule that does not finish until April.
The players wanted a break before the West Indies tour that starts in Jan.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Looking at it, the two venues for Test matches are Ahemdabad and Mumbai. Mumbai should have good attendance, Ahemdabad could be or not, depends. Wasn't happy with the pitch that Ahemdabad created against SA, so hoping they'll prepare something better. BCCI should say something, though not before firing the curators of places like Chennai. That pitch was a disgrace.
Anyway, back on topic, I think we'll see results in both Test matches.
Anyway, back on topic, I think we'll see results in both Test matches.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Yea, understandable. Still hate the two tests though. I can understand why BCCI wants 7 ODIs. Gotta pay those big salaries somehow.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Bradbourne hasn't had a Test for 35 years, so I think they'll be keen to ensure a good result.
Magrat Garlick
Global Moderator
England throw out the FTP on a regular basis due to the Ashes coming more often than it really "needs to". (Plus it'll be dull if they only played the same opponents in the same sequence on a five-year rota)
An additional bonus: England get to play a five-ODI only series in India in three years...
Goughy: only one "i".