Manee
Cricketer Of The Year
True. Although I cannot scientifically substantiate this, I believe his mechanical action hampers his attempt to conventionally swing the ball.
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**Official** New Zealand in Australia
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gettingbetter
State Vice-Captain
That is true, but in saying that, Australia did still lose the series.
Flem274*
123/5
Read an article (in the herald I recall) that says that Vettori is endorsing O'Brien as his Get Out Ponting man. In short, Vettori says he has attributes similar to I Sharma that trouble Ponting.
Wow, O'Brien has sure come far. Who would have though after his last attempt at Aus that he'd be back as a first choice seamer with the task of getting out Ponting?
Wow, O'Brien has sure come far. Who would have though after his last attempt at Aus that he'd be back as a first choice seamer with the task of getting out Ponting?
Somerset
Cricketer Of The Year
Gee thats putting a lot of trust in O'Brien. I've been impressed with his efforts in New Zealand's last four tests but I'm not quite so sure hes got the same ability to pressure Ponting like Sharma has been capable of doing in recent times.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Anyone other than Raghav predicted anything other than a complete and utter pizzling?
I'd be surprised if New Zealand scored over 300 in any innings of the entire series, even given the ridiculously flat nature of the pitches. That batting lineup is terrible, especially with Oram out now as well.
I don't mind the New Zealand attack but the Australian batting lineup is still the best in the world and shouldn't have too many troubles on home soil posting big totals. Uncompetitive cricket awaits.
I'd be surprised if New Zealand scored over 300 in any innings of the entire series, even given the ridiculously flat nature of the pitches. That batting lineup is terrible, especially with Oram out now as well.
I don't mind the New Zealand attack but the Australian batting lineup is still the best in the world and shouldn't have too many troubles on home soil posting big totals. Uncompetitive cricket awaits.
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NUFAN
Y no Afghanistan flag
Prince do you want to bet? I reckon NZ are certain to score over 300 atleast once..
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Doesn't Ponting has a ridiculously amazing ODI record against New Zealand?
EDIT: Averages 54.87, with 6 hundreds and 10 fifties. Plenty of troubling done by Vettori ind33d.
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Raghav
International Vice-Captain
I backup with that.. NZ will score 300 more than once
NZTailender
I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Yeah, averaging 30 at Test level really isn't good enough - get Hilfenhaus who averaged 48.43 for Tasmania last season into the team!
Hilfenhaus is a talent, but he needs to do a lot more than one good full season, one terrible season and one good start to a season for mine. Bollinger and Noffke certainly have the best cases out of the backups based on recent domestic performances and I can't help but think the recent decline in batting depth has something to do with Noffke's sudden improvement in figures. People will no doubt disagree with that but the fact that Bollinger was actually on tour should see him above those who weren't in the pecking order, surely.
Taking Bollinger on tour only to have Siddle leapfrog him was bad enough without having others leapfrog him based on performances early in the Shield season he had to miss due to being in India in the first place.
Regardless of all that, Johnson was our best specialist quick over in India so dropping him wouldn't make too much sense, and surely Lee and Clark have to play.
dontcloseyoureyes
BARNES OUT
Hahaha 54 in ODI's.
Great call.
Great call.
howardj
International Coach
Well really, Bollinger is the guy who has had one good season, on tripe of some real tripe prior to that - so there's not much to distinguish him from Hilfenhaus in that regard. And how much more of Johnson do we need to see? Frankly, dropping players doesn't mean they're gone forever. Rather, they can go back to Shield cricket and improve. Even McGrath did this.
pasag
RTDAS
Good thing about this series is hopefully we won't see similar horrific selection mistakes like we saw in India, mostly because of the uproar from the media. They could get away with whatever illogical rubbish they wanted in India because I doubt they paid much attention to local reports, but hopefully here there will be some sort of accountability and backlash if they go down the same path.
Prince EWS
Global Moderator
Actually, Bollinger was quite good in 2006-07 as well - he took 37 wickets @ 28. He backed that up last season with an amazing 47 wickets @ 15. Much like Noffke he's been good in the last two seasons (not including this one) after meager performances in the seasons just prior to that.
This is a stark contrast from Hilfenhaus who had a good start in 2006-07 with 60 @ 25 and then tailed away badly last season. Obviously last season is going to be slightly more relevant than the season before that and Bollinger's standout season far exceeds the others - in terms of average anyway.
House has started this season well but it really hasn't been going long enough for us to take much from it IMO, particularly given who he's taken his wickets against.
I don't think he's one of the best three quicks available to us at the current time, but his head should not roll just because we lost the series as he was better than every other specialist quick on tour.howardj said:
S.P. Fleming
U19 Cricketer
I actually think well go ok batting wise and should get over 300 atleast once, i am predicting that getting 20 Australian wickets is going to be the toughest challenge.
Raghav
International Vice-Captain
Southee & O'Brien will be more threat to Aussies than the other bowlers in NZ camp. Donno whether both will be played in the opener. I hope both of them get wickets against the tour match...
pup11
International Coach
Well i hope Aussies come out with the same kind of determination they displayed after the 05 Ashes loss, this one should hurt even more because this is one of heaviest series defeat for Australia in some time, so i guess the team would be determined to bounce back, and i think NZ is the perfect team for Australia to play after such a series loss in order to get that winning habit going again, before facing the more serious challenge from the touring South Africans.