New Cricket Trivia - 'SJS format'

[fredfertang]

Presumably the Hearne family are involved?

 

[stumpski]

Well, they could be - they're not the two examples I had in mind though. I deliberately couched the question in that way because I thought there might be others.

Didn't the Hearnes have a brother who played for South Africa?

 

[fredfertang]

Yes George - Frank Hearne was his Uncle, I think, but even if I am right that always assumes the 88/89 S Africa matches are Tests which while I know the record books will never change, in reality is quite laughable - in my opinion anyway!

 

[stumpski]

You're quite correct actually - Frank Hearne senior played for both England and South Africa - two of his sons played for England and another for South Africa.




But there at least two others.

Edit: I just read that back to myself - of course, the Hearnes were father and sons, there were no cousins involved. At least none that played Test cricket. Alec Hearne, despite having appeared against South Africa in 1891-92, was described in his 1952 obit as one of the best players never to have played for England. So it looks like Wisden is in accord with Fertang there.

 

[stumpski]

Yes George - Frank Hearne was his Uncle, I think, but even if I am right that always assumes the 88/89 S Africa matches are Tests which while I know the record books will never change, in reality is quite laughable - in my opinion anyway!

Dangerously close to exhibiting Richard-like tendencies there.

 

[fredfertang]

Dangerously close to exhibiting Richard-like tendencies there.

Say it ain't so!

 

[Lillian Thomson]

England's Gubby Allen had an Uncle Reg who played for Australia in the mid 1880's.

 

[stumpski]

He did indeed, well done.

The other pairing had different surnames, but curiously the same first name.

 

[stumpski]

Presumably the Hearne family are involved?

OK Back to the Hearnes for a moment - I had to write down a family tree before I worked it all out, but Fredfertang was right after all.


George and Alec Hearne, themselves the sons and nephews of old Middlesex players, both appeared in a Test against South Africa. Their brother Frank played for South Africa in the same match - and his son, GAL Hearne also played for South Africa. Fortunately the lineage ends there, but it is an example of uncle(s) and nephew appearing for different teams.

 

[fredfertang]

There is a book about the cricketing family written by a descendant - Wheelwrights to Wickets it's called - amazing how many did play top class cricket yet all in the same couple of generations.

As to the outstanding pair was either a West Indian?

 

[stumpski]

Yes - perhaps only the Fosters and Gregorys have had more representatives in the first-class game (although the Graces and Edriches can't be far behind). No, neither was from the West Indies.

 

[Goughy]

How about the uncle for SA and the nephew for Zim?

 

[stumpski]

No ... but you might be surprised to learn that the younger of the two was playing less than ten years ago.

 

[fredfertang]

Twose and Tolchard I suspect

 

[stumpski]

Yes, the two Rogers - I only found this out a few days ago. I don't recall, when Twose first appeared on the scene, hearing about his being the nephew of Roger Tolchard. Both are from Devon I believe.

I remember when England lost to New Zealand in 1999, someone pointed out that England's best player had been a New Zealander (Caddick) while New Zealand's worst had been an Englishman.

 

[fredfertang]

Apart from being Yorkshireman what do Arnold Dyson, Geoffrey Boycott and Len Hutton have in common?

 

[zaremba]

It can't be as simple as them all being opening batsmen - but does it have anything to do with opening the batting?

 

[zaremba]

Or something to do with famous relatives?

 

[fredfertang]

It can't be as simple as them all being opening batsmen - but does it have anything to do with opening the batting?

yes

 

[zaremba]

A good thing?