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Cricket Books
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archie mac
International Coach
New review up about the 'new' game of 20/20 http://www.cricketweb.net/cricketbooks/5371.php
stumpski
International Captain
I recently took delivery of a 1947 Wisden - just two more needed for a post-war set - and noticed several adverts for books in the early pages. Three of them were works by Sir Pelham 'Plum' Warner, of which the one that interested me most was 'Lord's 1787-1945.'
Now I haven't read anything by Warner, and I might be doing him a disservice, but I imagine he wasn't the most scintillating of writers, and said book might anyway have been superceded by Tony Lewis's offering of 1987. Has anyone read anything by him, and is his stuff worth tracking down?
- and noticed several adverts for books in the early pages. Three of them were works by Sir Pelham 'Plum' Warner, of which the one that interested me most was 'Lord's 1787-1945.'Now I haven't read anything by Warner, and I might be doing him a disservice, but I imagine he wasn't the most scintillating of writers, and said book might anyway have been superceded by Tony Lewis's offering of 1987. Has anyone read anything by him, and is his stuff worth tracking down?
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Your instinct is quite correct David - some of his early tour books (those written in his playing days) are worth a few quid but his writing is just what you would expect of the "bodyline appeaser" - not a hint of controversy anywhere and he's no literary giant either - writing with nothing other than a good solid forward defensive I am afraid
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I have the following books by Warner.I recently took delivery of a 1947 Wisden - just two more needed for a post-war set
Now I haven't read anything by Warner, and I might be doing him a disservice, but I imagine he wasn't the most scintillating of writers, and said book might anyway have been superceded by Tony Lewis's offering of 1987. Has anyone read anything by him, and is his stuff worth tracking down?
- My Cricketing Life
- Lord's - 1787-1945
- How We Recovered the Ashes (MCC in Australia 1903-04)
- FIGHT FOR THE ASHES IN 1930, THE
- ENGLAND V AUSTRALIA 1912
- Cricket Reminiscences
- Cricket Between Two Wars
- Cricket
- Book of Cricket, The
He is not a great writer but he brings a great historical perspective. He often claimed to have watched more first class matches and more Test matches than any man alive and no one disputed it in his time. I give great preference to reading the accounts of those who write from personal experience than those who write from research done many decades later and perhaps from accounts like those of Warner.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Sounds like Alistair Cook's recent effort then!
surely you found his account of being a cathedral chorister absolutely compelling?
stumpski
International Captain
He looks as if he could still be one, doesn't he ... no, I haven't invested in it I'm afraid - just going on a recent review which panned it as being bland and 'shamefully premature.' How old is he, 23?
SJS, you probably own as many of Warner's books as anyone - I didn't even know he'd written as many as nine - I'll have a look for them in the Oval library next season (they have a loan facility there).
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Do not expect a great piece of writing.
To me reading books written by people who played the game over a century ago is to be transported into a different time. One of my greatest pleasures was to read Jessop's autobiography, A Cricketer's log. It was , to me at least, as if Jessop was sitting across from me talking to me directly. For me that is a priceless experience which just can not be got through reading his biography, however well researched, by a latter day writer who never saw him play.
By the way, there is a sequel to Warner's Lords 1787-1945, Diana Rait Kerr's Lord's 1946-1970. If you buy Warner's book, I would strongly suggest buying Rait Kerr's book too.
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Doh!! You forced it out of me that I bought it - what a cross-examiner - have you considered a career in the law David?
My only defence is I am a collector so I had to have it
archie mac
International Coach
I have read it also, but many years ago and I can remember it was nothing special. I also read his account of the 1903/04 Ashes tour, and I really enjoyed itI recently took delivery of a 1947 Wisden - just two more needed for a post-war set
Now I haven't read anything by Warner, and I might be doing him a disservice, but I imagine he wasn't the most scintillating of writers, and said book might anyway have been superceded by Tony Lewis's offering of 1987. Has anyone read anything by him, and is his stuff worth tracking down?
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Warner did write the only ever account of the 4-1 victory by South Africa over his side in 1905/06 which first brought out their quartet of googly bowlers - a fascinating and sadly neglected byway of cricket history. As I say Warner was no Percy Fender with his pen but his book is all there is and therefore important.
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Correction I have 13 (not nine) books by Warner.
- My Cricketing Life
- FIGHT FOR THE ASHES IN 1930, THE
- ENGLAND V AUSTRALIA 1912
- Cricket Memories By a Country Vicar
- M.C.C. IN SOUTH AFRICA, The (1905-06)
- Cricket
- Fight for the Ashes 1930, The
- How We Recovered the Ashes (1903-04)
- Cricket Reminiscences
- Book of Cricket, The
- Cricket Between Two Wars
- Lord's - 1787-1945
- Oxford & Cambridge at the wicket
The last one is written jointly with FS Ashley Cooper.
archie mac
International Coach
New review of a new book, about Jack Fingleton http://www.cricketweb.net/cricketbooks/5385.php
chasingthedon
International Regular
Which two years are you missing?I recently took delivery of a 1947 Wisden - just two more needed for a post-war set
Now I haven't read anything by Warner, and I might be doing him a disservice, but I imagine he wasn't the most scintillating of writers, and said book might anyway have been superceded by Tony Lewis's offering of 1987. Has anyone read anything by him, and is his stuff worth tracking down?
stumpski
International Captain
Just one now, I got the 1948 yesterday. I may not bother with the '46 for a while though as it's usually quite pricey and doesn't actually report on any cricket except for the three 'Victory' Tests.
I doubt if I'll venture back before 1940 as they're already taking up four shelves, it's hard enough finding room for the new one every year.
Fredfertang is the man to talk to on all matters Wisden.
I may not bother with the '46 for a while though as it's usually quite pricey and doesn't actually report on any cricket except for the three 'Victory' Tests.I doubt if I'll venture back before 1940 as they're already taking up four shelves, it's hard enough finding room for the new one every year.
Fredfertang is the man to talk to on all matters Wisden.
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SJS
Hall of Fame Member
You are right. I just cut and pasted them from my excel spread sheet that catalogues my books. Since I have two copies of that book, it shows up twice.
Well spotted though
PS : Is anyone interested in that book. I have some other books that I may want to sell.
archie mac
International Coach
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
OK. Give me five minutesPut up a list