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This Krejza kid

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Having never seen Krejza bowl, there are more qualified opinions than mine.

However his record and being an offspinner doesnt suggest success at he next level.

Even Australia may find it difficult to carry a specialist part time bowler (less that 2 wkts a FC game).
 

gettingbetter

State Vice-Captain
Does anyone miss Dan Cullen's continuous pulling of his sleeve up? (Sorry for being off-topic).

On this note, ever since Shane Warne, Australia has had a tendency to hype up spinners. I remember on the cricket show there was a piece on the two Cullens from South Australia. Neither are particulary that good. Then we had Cameron white, other than him being blonde and a Victorian, he is far from the next Shane Warne.

For the record. White to debut.
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
I've seen the match, and he's been anythnig but effective. He can't hold a line for a long time, bowling at least two boundary-balls an over. There was some minor turn in this pitch, but he got none of it. Even batsmen like Yuvraj, Kohli and Sharma, with zero chance of a Test spot, have been smashing him around freely- Yuvraj, who's often succumbed to unfancied off-spinners, smashed him all around. Not at all a good option when you've got Siddle as a fourth bowler who can make a dent in a batting lineup.
 

Julian87

State Captain
I think White is the best option. Would allow us four quicks, and unfortunately boot Watson from the team, both would be just as ineffective

6 Haddin
7 White
8 Lee
9 Johnson
10 Clark
11 Bollinger

is what I'd roll with.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Seriously - how does such a poor bowler get in a Test squad? :wacko:

I just can't see it. Why not just pick a squad composed entirely of seamers? Are any of these really seriously better spinners than Michael Clarke?
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Seriously - how does such a poor bowler get in a Test squad? :wacko:

India is notorious for providing dustbowls, and it would be incredibly stupid for Australia not to name at least one pure spinner in their squad. I mean it's not like England's ever named a dire spinner for a tour of India...
 

masterblaster

International Captain
I reckon Australia wishes Brad Hogg hadn't retired yet as he would've walked into this test side for this Indian tour. While the Indian's took a liking to him as well, he would've been a much better choice as compared to Krejza or White.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
India is notorious for providing dustbowls
Well, they're notorious for doing it more often than they actually manage to.
and it would be incredibly stupid for Australia not to name at least one pure spinner in their squad. I mean it's not like England's ever named a dire spinner for a tour of India...
Well, yeah, and Richard Dawson was a woeful selection too. But there simply doesn't seem to be any pure spinners in Australia currently. There honestly doesn't seem to me to be any difference in ability between Clarke and any "specialist". What's the point in weakening your side just for the sake of fitting an archetype?

Australia have shown in the past that they're not afraid to play three specialist bowlers. This strikes me as the perfect time to do it again. Especially as Jaques is apparently - insanely - about to be dropped.
 

NZTailender

I can't believe I ate the whole thing
Well, they're notorious for doing it more often than they actually manage to.

Well, yeah, and Richard Dawson was a woeful selection too. But there simply doesn't seem to be any pure spinners in Australia currently. There honestly doesn't seem to me to be any difference in ability between Clarke and any "specialist". What's the point in weakening your side just for the sake of fitting an archetype?

Australia have shown in the past that they're not afraid to play three specialist bowlers. This strikes me as the perfect time to do it again. Especially as Jaques is apparently - insanely - about to be dropped.
Australia's spinning stock isn't as dire as everyone is making out, and there are plenty of 'pure' spinners if we're talking about guys who make the side on their bowling alone.
Australia are ignoring former internationals in Nathan Hauritz and Cullen Bailey, while Bryce McGain was a shoo-in to play before being injured, not to mention Cassons sudden departure after WIndies.

I guess I'm one of the few people on this board who actually rates Nathan Hauritz. Unfortunately for Australia, he moved to NSW and has thus played a handful of of FC matches in the last couple of seasons.

Yes the current crop of Australian spinners have ordinary records, and yes the two that are in the test squad are hardly good but I don't think there are absolutely no spinners at all in Australia who aren't of a decent skill level.

Though whether or not one should be picked for the sake of playing a spinner in India is another matter. In this case, I think one is deserved a shot in at least one test, and he should be the best spinner available bar injuries. Otherwise I think Australia could try and win it with pure seamers and part time spinners.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Australia's spinning stock isn't as dire as everyone is making out, and there are plenty of 'pure' spinners if we're talking about guys who make the side on their bowling alone.
Australia are ignoring former internationals in Nathan Hauritz and Cullen Bailey, while Bryce McGain was a shoo-in to play before being injured, not to mention Cassons sudden departure after WIndies.

I guess I'm one of the few people on this board who actually rates Nathan Hauritz. Unfortunately for Australia, he moved to NSW and has thus played a handful of of FC matches in the last couple of seasons.

Yes the current crop of Australian spinners have ordinary records, and yes the two that are in the test squad are hardly good but I don't think there are absolutely no spinners at all in Australia who aren't of a decent skill level.

Though whether or not one should be picked for the sake of playing a spinner in India is another matter. In this case, I think one is deserved a shot in at least one test, and he should be the best spinner available bar injuries. Otherwise I think Australia could try and win it with pure seamers and part time spinners.
Well Hauritz is one of the worst bowlers I've ever seen IMO, and if he, Cullen, Casson and the like are honestly better than the Krejzas, Whites etc. then it begs the question of why they're not putting in performances which suggest that.

Much as I'd love to see Hauritz play more Tests so his bowling-average went up, I don't see that there's any sense in picking Krejza ahead of either Jaques or the likes of Noffke. If McGain was fit he'd probably deserve some sort of shot, but he's not and hence I don't see any point playing a specialist spinner purely because "you should play four bowlers because that's the way everyone's done it historically".
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Giles wasn't a poor bowler, he was infinitely better than any fingerspinner in Australia currently or since the mid-1970s.

However, the reason he played so many Tests which he shouldn't have played was simple: the "you must have variation" rubbish.
 

Jakester1288

International Regular
Australia's spinning stock isn't as dire as everyone is making out, and there are plenty of 'pure' spinners if we're talking about guys who make the side on their bowling alone.
Australia are ignoring former internationals in Nathan Hauritz and Cullen Bailey, while Bryce McGain was a shoo-in to play before being injured, not to mention Cassons sudden departure after WIndies.
We have plenty of pure spinners, and one that is mature. Shame he is injured. We have plenty of youngsters coming through the ranks, which is great. Some of them might make it big. They all might fail and share getting goes in test matches to get belted all around the park.

Also, Cullen Bailey never played a test match. That was Dan Cullen, from the same state. People rate Bailey, but he cant even get a regular game for South Australia, let alone breaking into the Australian side!
 

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