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Symonds sent home

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Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
But you would, in case of a lesser player, wouldn't you ? And you definately would in case of the likes of Bhajji, Akhtar, Asif or for that matter any other Asian player.
The Weed smacked his own team-mate in the mouth in front of a world-wide audience of hundreds of millions

Akhtar tested positive and belted his own team mate

Asif has been done done for drugs 3 times (including being deported and banned for life from my country)

Brilliant argument mate
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Now you are suggesting someone in CA or leadership group gave Andrew a fishing rod and some bait, and off he went. So, it's the person who gave the fishing rod is guilty and poor innocent lamb Andrew, gee all of 33, should'nt get flak.

LMAO.
He got permission to go fishing BEFORE the team arrived in Darwin.

They knew when he was going and where he was going

If they had so little trust in him, then maybe Nielsen (whose job it is to get a well prepared team on the park) could've actually got him to the park in the first place

Or Steve Bernard, who job is to take care of logistics (basically get them from A to B) could've done more than leave him at A

Bottom line is that if you know someone has a weakness, dont be disaapointed when they live up to expectations, particularly when part of your job is to prevent it
 

Precambrian

Banned
The Weed smacked his own team-mate in the mouth in front of a world-wide audience of hundreds of millions

Akhtar tested positive and belted his own team mate

Asif has been done done for drugs 3 times (including being deported and banned for life from my country)

Brilliant argument mate
Who gave you right to call Bhajji 'WEED'?
 

Precambrian

Banned
Bhajji smacked Sree because Sree told him something really bad, it happen to even legends like Zidane.

But was he kid-gloved? Did any of piss poor reasoning like he was 'provoked' into was given? NO. He was banned from that year's IPL, and from another tournament.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
The Weed smacked his own team-mate in the mouth in front of a world-wide audience of hundreds of millions
Ofcourse your diatribe started only after the slap-gate, before that you used to worship Bhajji and his cricketing accumen.

Akhtar tested positive and belted his own team mate
And he was banned for it, no one supported him like you have been supporting Symonds and bashing anyone and everyone that remotely disagrees with you. Also not to forget how you wanted the 'whole Country of Pakistan' to be fixed or something like that.


Asif has been done done for drugs 3 times (including being deported and banned for life from my country)
And ?? Care to evaluate Symonds adventures with descpline in last 3 years ? Let me guess he is an angel capable of harming no one.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
But was he kid-gloved? Did any of piss poor reasoning like he was 'provoked' into was given? NO. He was banned from that year's IPL, and from another tournament.
Indeed. The amount of crap Bhajji got for slap-gate was just ridiculous mainly because Sreesanth probably got away with saying stuff that would get his nose broken everytime.

At least he took the punishment as a man and accepted his fault unlike some others and Symonds apologists. Here is another gem in the Aussie Press :-

http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/...shing-over-work/2008/09/03/1220121332421.html

The real reason Symonds chose fishing over work Alex Brown
September 4, 2008


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THE seeds of Andrew Symonds's discontent were sown long before the Northern Territory fishing expedition. To understand the turbulent mindset of the all-rounder, venture back to January, to South Australia, to the furore that threatened to split the cricketing world.
To this day, Symonds has not forgiven Cricket Australia for what transpired in an Adelaide federal courtroom eight months ago. It was there that Symonds and three teammates were convinced by CA to downgrade a charge of racial abuse against Harbhajan Singh to one of mere verbal abuse - a ploy the Australian players were advised would help ensure a lengthy suspension after the Monkeygate scandal, but one which eventually resulted in Harbhajan escaping sanction altogether.
Harbahjan's reprieve infuriated Symonds, who felt abandoned by administrators he felt were more interested in kow-towing to the influential Indian board than protecting their own. Sources within the Australian team say Symonds has refused all of CA's subsequent attempts to appease him, and the lingering resentment has fuelled his deteriorating attitude to work.
Those close to the 33-year-old do not believe he will retire, but there is grave concern over the mindset in which he will return. Some fear that a bullish, unrepentant Symonds could erode harmony during this period of team transition, where the ever-dwindling list of senior players are being relied upon to set the standard for a new generation of Australian cricketers. Others are worried that Symonds's relationship with Michael Clarke - his friend and Australia's captain elect - could prove irreparable should the Queenslander place the blame for his embarrassing expulsion solely at Clarke's feet.
Ripples of discontent at Symonds's wavering commitment have surfaced on occasion this year, but it was not until Darwin that the issue came to a head. Australian players and officials were alarmed when Symonds arranged to have his fishing boat trucked from Queensland to Darwin before the three-match one-day series against Bangladesh. Hardly the sign of a man focused.
It was against Bangladesh that Symonds endured his most infamous fall from grace when, after a late night drinking session in Cardiff, the limited-overs veteran reported for a game in an inebriated state. The public shaming that ensued prompted Symonds to reassess his attitude towards cricket and, after several months, he returned with a vengeance.
Symonds retained that focus and drive through his Test recall in 2006, and the torrid World Cup and Indian one-day campaigns the following year. But since the Harbhajan hearing in Adelaide, teammates believe Symonds - emotional, stubborn and a bearer of grudges - has lacked much of the competitive edge that propelled him from Test periphery to international superstar. The disproportionate pay cheques offered by the Indian Premier League have supposedly fuelled the fires of discontent further with CA, who are not in a position to match the $1.4 million contract he signed with the Deccan Chargers.
Symonds has made no secret of his distaste for his ever-burgeoning celebrity status: another factor that has gnawed at his passion for the game. In a recent interview with the Herald, he spoke of a "traperazzi" scam during the 2007 World Cup, in which a man slapped him outside a nightclub while a hidden photographer waited to capture the ensuing outburst.
"Sport is not necessarily just sport any more," he said. "People like to know what sportsmen are doing when they're not playing sport. People want to know what goes on behind the man, I suppose, which to me, I think, is probably slightly rude."
The majority of the Australian squad have sent Symonds messages of support since his forced return to Queensland, and those who have received replies have been heartened by his apparent determination to return to international cricket.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Bhajji smacked Sree because Sree told him something really bad, it happen to even legends like Zidane.

But was he kid-gloved? Did any of piss poor reasoning like he was 'provoked' into was given? NO. He was banned from that year's IPL, and from another tournament.
Sorry, but he was let off incredibly lightly

The penalty in Australian cricket for that offence is a MINIMUM of 2 years with a likelihood of closer to 5

With his record, it was only politics and commercial considerations that he saved him from getting life
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Man, this gets better and better. Hopefully, he never plays again. He's been a prick for the longest time, and it's catching up to him. Is it wrong to rejoice in someone else's professional misfortune? Yes. But I'm doing it anyway.

I want a fishing boat where I can put both Harbhajan and Symonds and leave them in the middle of the pacific.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Ofcourse your diatribe started only after the slap-gate, before that you used to worship Bhajji and his cricketing accumen.

And he was banned for it, no one supported him like you have been supporting Symonds and bashing anyone and everyone that remotely disagrees with you. Also not to forget how you wanted the 'whole Country of Pakistan' to be fixed or something like that.


And ?? Care to evaluate Symonds adventures with descpline in last 3 years ? Let me guess he is an angel capable of harming no one.
There's no point in talking about the Weed's racist taunts because you'll forever hang onto the fact that he got off on a technicality

The Weed is a shocker as is evidenced by the fact that he has amongst the worst disciplinary records in the history of cricket

In relation to Symonds, all I've said is that the punishment does not fit the crime

If you take your blinkers off, you'd see that I've advocated dropping him from the team for the series and fining him his wages for same - all for missing a meeting

As for Pakistan, stop talking crap

I've criticized Inzy (worst disciplinary record in history unless he's been overtaken by the Weed), Akhtar, Asif and the pitch dancer

I know that doesnt fit with your stereotypes, but facts seldom do
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Sorry, but he was let off incredibly lightly

The penalty in Australian cricket for that offence is a MINIMUM of 2 years with a likelihood of closer to 5
Pentalty will be there if something like this comes out in the open. The hiding experts in CA dont really let this sort of stuff out. What is the Penalty in Australian Cricket for taking bribes from a bookie ? Let me guess - NO PENALTY.

With his record, it was only politics and commercial considerations that he saved him from getting life
As if Symonds has a record that is any better.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Pentalty will be there if something like this comes out in the open. The hiding experts in CA dont really let this sort of stuff out. What is the Penalty in Australian Cricket for taking bribes from a bookie ? Let me guess - NO PENALTY.



As if Symonds has a record that is any better.
Check my posts, I've always said that Warne should've got life after testing positive for drugs - he's an embarrassment to Australia and fair play

Get those blinkers off buddy

As for Symonds, get real!

The guy might be an absolute prat, immature and irresponsible but if we were all penalised for those offences, the world would be a pretty boring place
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
There's no point in talking about the Weed's racist taunts because you'll forever hang onto the fact that he got off on a technicality
No, I will hangover to this piece of fact :-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdOJDQbDAsk

The only time I hear the M word or an expletive (i.e. beep) from the Aussie players.

The Weed is a shocker as is evidenced by the fact that he has amongst the worst disciplinary records in the history of cricket.
And Symonds isn't a shocker only because CA have lenient on him so far. No wonder he has been showing his middle finger to them.

In relation to Symonds, all I've said is that the punishment does not fit the crime
The Punishment definitely fits the crime if one looks at Symonds' History.

If you take your blinkers off, you'd see that I've advocated dropping him from the team for the series and fining him his wages for same - all for missing a meeting
Yeah go one accuse me of wearing blinkers..as if you are not. What is that saying...those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at others..

as for Pakistan, stop talking crap

I've criticized Inzy (worst disciplinary record in history unless he's been overtaken by the Weed), Akhtar, Asif and the pitch dancer
Now Inzy has the worst decplinary record ?? Are you talking from you *** , I dont believe it is possible to do so, but the amount of crap that is coming out of you, it is hard to believe it is coming out of a clean outlet.


I know that doesnt fit with your stereotypes, but facts seldom do
And you are stating facts, aren't you ?
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Check my posts, I've always said that Warne should've got life after testing positive for drugs - he's an embarrassment to Australia and fair play.
Have you talked about fixing your country (Australia) then ?

Get those blinkers off buddy
Charity begins at home.

As for Symonds, get real!

The guy might be an absolute prat, immature and irresponsible but if we were all penalised for those offences, the world would be a pretty boring place
So just to make the world more entertaining we should accomodate Symonds and ignore all his mistakes.
 

social

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Booooooring, ignore the obvious and keep on living in the fantasy land where the world agrees with you despite your continued mistakes

Never mind, the world will be rid of your mentor later this year, will you follow Dubya?
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Man, this gets better and better. Hopefully, he never plays again. He's been a prick for the longest time, and it's catching up to him. Is it wrong to rejoice in someone else's professional misfortune? Yes. But I'm doing it anyway.

I want a fishing boat where I can put both Harbhajan and Symonds and leave them in the middle of the pacific.
:laugh:
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Gaaaahhhh, can't we all just get over this monkey-weed bollocks? Let it go everyone.
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Booooooring, ignore the obvious and keep on living in the fantasy land where the world agrees with you despite your continued mistakes

Never mind, the world will be rid of your mentor later this year, will you follow Dubya?
Baah..That's so intelligent. First I was a Symonds hater and now Dubya is my mentor ?

Cometh from the guy whose mentors let a drug cheat escape his country and another one of his mentor is a longtime follower of Dubya. No wonder you have been posting such intelligent analysis of every situation.
 

pup11

International Coach
It's pretty simple

The only people that we've heard from to date are people with a vested interest in sticking the boot in.

Some of the journos love having the opportunity of knifing somebody that they perceive as being arrogant.

The people around the team, unless it really is a tin-pot operation, will have been briefed by CA (and they in turn by lawyers and pr people) as to what they should and should not say.

Why?

Because the suspension of a highly paid employee is the stuff lawyers dream about.

So excuse me for being a cold-hearted cynic, but I dont believe all is as it appears

In any event, serious questions have to be asked of the so-called leadership group.

They knew Symonds was going on a fishing trip

They knew his history

Unless this has been a total knee-jerk reaction, they knew he was skating on thin ice

In those circumstances, I would expect my managers to be proactive in their attempts to see that rules were adhered to.

If they tried and were ignored, so be it

However, if they simply handed him a loaded gun and allowed him to shoot himself, then they are as guilty as he is and heads should roll
WTF? Seriously from the looks of it you seem to be trying to defend Symonds, but all you are managing to do is sound ridiculous, FFS Symonds is no lollipop sucking baby, he is all of 33 and for the love of god if he needs somebody to tell him what's good and what's bad for him now and treat him with kid gloves, then he has no business being near a professional side like Australia, if Symonds was treading on thin ice, he himself should have been careful about what he is doing and what would be its consequences.
 

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