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Ajantha Mendis: Can this mystery ever be solved?

Xuhaib

International Coach
Well, after how many deliveries? I think any bowler gets a shot after having bowled that many overs.
BUT still he did get him and if you include that in your analysis then his average goes lower then Murali against the top order.
 

Precambrian

Banned
:unsure:

A dismissal has to qualify has a dismissal in my analysis as per the Laws of Cricket. Otherwise, India won the Sydney Test and the series Down Under.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
:unsure:

A dismissal has to qualify has a dismissal in my analysis as per the Laws of Cricket. Otherwise, India won the Sydney Test and the series Down Under.
I thought we were talking about potency of Mendis against the top order.

What i meant to say is that his already awesome stats could have been even more awesome with some more luck.
 

Precambrian

Banned
I don't think that an average of around 30 against top 6 on SL pitches is that awesome. However, it is still very good for a newbie.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
I don't think that an average of around 30 against top 6 on SL pitches is that awesome. However, it is still very good for a newbie.
He has outbowled the other 3 spinners in the series and they are not just your every day spinner. One is an all-time great the other a border line all time great while the third one is also world class.

What more were you expecting?:unsure:
 

Jakester1288

International Regular
Let me answer the question again, in a different way:

To answer the question in the thread title.
Can this mystery be solved? Yes.
To answer the question everyone has been talking about.
Will this mystery be solved? I have my doubts.
 

Precambrian

Banned
He has outbowled the other 3 spinners in the series and they are not just your every day spinner. One is an all-time great the other a border line all time great while the third one is also world class.

What more were you expecting?:unsure:
Very different yardsticks of comparison. While I do agree that Mendis has outbowled others in terms of wickets and deliveries, it has to be seen in perspective.

Whose wickets he took?

11 of the Top order and 12 of the Lower Order. Fair enough.

Look closer. The 11 top order consists of 5 VVS Laxman wickets and 3 Dravid and another 3 Gambhir wickets. Thats it. Dravid has been in wrteched form for some year and half now internationally and his wicket is virtually "up for sale". And we all know Lax is not the best player of spin and credit to him for having played 100+ deliveries off Murali without losing his wicket to him once this series so far. And Gambhir is yet to be proven at the Test level.

So what about Mendis performance against the rest of the top order? Sehwag and Tendulkar have virtually creamed him off, scoring at above a SR of 90, while Ganguly has been defensive but not given his wicket away.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Very different yardsticks of comparison. While I do agree that Mendis has outbowled others in terms of wickets and deliveries, it has to be seen in perspective.

Whose wickets he took?

11 of the Top order and 12 of the Lower Order. Fair enough.

Look closer. The 11 top order consists of 5 VVS Laxman wickets and 3 Dravid and another 3 Gambhir wickets. Thats it. Dravid has been in wrteched form for some year and half now internationally and his wicket is virtually "up for sale". And we all know Lax is not the best player of spin and credit to him for having played 100+ deliveries off Murali without losing his wicket to him once this series so far. And Gambhir is yet to be proven at the Test level.

So what about Mendis performance against the rest of the top order? Sehwag and Tendulkar have virtually creamed him off, scoring at above a SR of 90, while Ganguly has been defensive but not given his wicket away.
He has troubled Ganguly as well so 4/6 is a pretty good ratio and if he can trouble 4/6 top order of every international team every time then I reckon he can go on to have a gun career.
 

Precambrian

Banned
He has troubled Ganguly as well so 4/6 is a pretty good ratio and if he can trouble 4/6 top order of every international team every time then I reckon he can go on to have a gun career.
I don't think he has really troubled Gangs and Gambhir to the extent he has troubled Dravid. And ALxman, while has he got out all the 5 times so far to Mendis, has scored runs also. So in my opinion, only Dravid has been consistently failed to pick Mendis. That would be 1/6.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
I don't think he has really troubled Gangs and Gambhir to the extent he has troubled Dravid. And ALxman, while has he got out all the 5 times so far to Mendis, has scored runs also. So in my opinion, only Dravid has been consistently failed to pick Mendis. That would be 1/6.
haha...what? thats laughable!!! ofcourse they are international batsman they should have a little of idea of what the bowler is doing and by saying that Laxman has been picking Mendis destroys the little bit of credibility that you were left with. I am not arguing with you anymore.
 

Jakester1288

International Regular
How do you work Cricinfo Stats Guru so well to churn out all these statistics? I have trouble finding things like these. Anyone want to give me any pointers so I can find statistics of my own?
 

Precambrian

Banned
On the Cricinfo Live scorecard, on the Left pane, you can find Stats & Analysis, click on that, there u will find Player Vs Player. ----> This is for current match.

For other matches, go to the relevant scorecard. On the top part, there will be Player Vs Player link.
 

DaRick

State Vice-Captain
Well, I don't think it'll be easy to solve the 'mystery' that is currently Mendis in ODI's. Certainly, I don't expect Test batsmen to solve it in the short-term in Test cricket, either. In the longer term, I still suspect that they may, though.
 

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