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[sledger]

What makes it even stupider is the fact that they did the same thing with Cena/HBK at WM23, though it makes me wonder if they are going to have Cena turn heel at the end of this...could happen.

As for Kane...what's going to be in the bag is obviously going to be his mask isn't it? Certainly the obvious outcome anyway..

 

[sledger]

Also see that apparently Mick Foley is close to quitting the WWE, word is that he is sick of Vince screaming at him through his headset every week. Fully understand why Foley has well and truly had enough of it, but it would be a shame to see him go, as he is probably the best colour commentator left in the company at the moment.

Also lol @ Todd Grisham being announced as the new ECW announcer.

 

[masterblaster]

I can't understand the WWE booking team anymore. Not on RAW anyway. Not only does CM Punk lose AGAIN, but they put the match with the World Champ in it halfway through the show and make Cena/Batista the main event. Hell, Cena even straight out said "everyone is interested in Cena/Batista at the moment", though it wasn't a direct reference to the championship status, it's still a fairly **** indication of what sort of a state it's in at the moment. Has Punk even won a match clean since he won the title? I just honestly can't see the point in making a champion consistently look like ****. They may as well have not bothered giving him the title in the first place. And now we have Punk/JBL to look forward to at Summerslam, goody.

Overreaction here. Punk just won clean against William Regal, The King of the Ring last week. Seeing as this week's match was a handicap match against Jericho and JBL with the winner facing Punk at Summerslam, it was likely that Punk would lose.

Whilst Punk has not been booked that strongly, it still doesn't compare to Rey Mysterio's reign where he was jobbed out to the likes of The Great Khali constantly. I'm not that concerned for Punk yet, I think he'll be World Champion for a while.

 

[masterblaster]

I'm not too fussed about Punk. I suspected he'd be mismanaged from the beginning so none of this surprises me. A career of upper mid card beckons in all likelihood.

What pissed me off more was seeing them annihilate Rhodes and DiBiase like that. I hate these part time Tag Teams beating specialist and credible tag champions. There are better ways to fuel a rivalry rather than the done before Tag Champs who hate each other bollox they're using now. And they wonder why no-one cares about the Tag belts, Cryme Tyme should've had a match against Priceless at Summerslam, but they can't get on TV unless it's in Cena's shadow.

The only plus for the show was Adamle's performance, he handled himself really well out there and am interested to see how he'll make Kane reveal what's in the bag next week.

Agreed entirely. I really like team of Rhodes and DiBiase and for them to lose is terrible. Most likely they'll get their belts back soon rather than later but this whole recycled storyline of World Tag Team Champions who hate each other is old and tired.

 

[duffer]

As for Kane...what's going to be in the bag is obviously going to be his mask isn't it? Certainly the obvious outcome anyway..

Well, it has to be the mask, afaic but Adamle said if Kane doesn't want to show us what's in it then he'll take it from him which sounds more interesting than what's actually in it.

 

[Barney Rubble]

RAW was a bit hit and miss this week, but one thing stood out - Mike Adamle. He was fantastic, and I really believe this concept of "Adamle Original" ideas is gonna take off and make RAW very interesting. Still can't help thinking there's a swerve around the corner for SummerSlam, Punk vs JBL after all the build they've been giving several people in the last few weeks is kind of a letdown.

 

[Majin]

Dunno, I was thinking it looked quite decent tbh.

Summerslam is one I always look forward to because they usually go all out to make it awesome but HHH/Khali, Punk/JBL, Hardy/Henry and Cena/Batista don't sound like anything I want to watch. Not at Summerslam at least. Punk/JBL might not be so bad but when you think it could so easily read Punk/Jericho then ugh. As much as I appreciate the effort Henry puts in you could probably script how that match is going to go now. HHH/Khali is pretty much along the same lines, and Cena/Botchtista will no doubt work their asses off to put on a show but I just don't care about Dave and can't get behind Cena anymore. He's just stale at the moment. Batista matches are usually when I get up to go and get food and drinks and stuff when i'm watching PPV's anyway

So yeah it's not really a card I want to waste money on tbh. The only way they'd get me to buy this is if they randomly add John Morrison/Shelton in some sort of gimmick match and Regal/Finlay magically appear in a best 2 out of 3 falls match. Which is about as likely as HHH jobbing to Colin Delaney

 

[sledger]

Hmm, that's true, but it's worth remembering that something involving Y2J and HBK is almost certain to be added to the card, criminal that Kennedy doesnt yet have a match either.

 

[pinchy81]

When WWE filmed those vignettes currently airing on SmackDown of Ron "R-Truth" Killings talking about growing up, they filmed eight of them. It looks like it'll be about a month and half before he actually debuts in the ring on television.

Brian Kendrick is definitely in line for a push from WWE. They want to make Kendrick a somebody, and create an act similar to Shawn Michaels & Diesel. The Kendrick & Ezekiel pairing is patterned after them.

 

[duffer]

When WWE filmed those vignettes currently airing on SmackDown of Ron "R-Truth" Killings talking about growing up, they filmed eight of them. It looks like it'll be about a month and half before he actually debuts in the ring on television.

Brian Kendrick is definitely in line for a push from WWE. They want to make Kendrick a somebody, and create an act similar to Shawn Michaels & Diesel. The Kendrick & Ezekiel pairing is patterned after them.

Wouldn't be disappointed with a slow build for Truth, and am intrigued by how they're going to us Kendrick and Zeke. Never seen the big guy wrestle but surely he'll be better than Nash in the ring.

 

[sledger]

Dunno, the Kevin Nash of 1995 or thereabouts was pretty good imo, from that point on it was a pretty sharpe decline though obv. But yeah, I'm liking what they're doing with Kendrick atm.

See the UK Sun website for Paul Heyman's latest blog on the WWE shakeup - bit of a condemnation.

 

[duffer]

See the UK Sun website for Paul Heyman's latest blog on the WWE shakeup - bit of a condemnation.

Woah, damning but spot on as always by Heyman and consistent with the sentiments of most people in this thread I'd think. Apart from his condemnation of Adamle the rest I agree with, what started out a month ago as one of the most exciting times to be a wrestling fan has descended into same old same old territory as far as the IWC's criticism of booking is concerned.

Shame but there is time to reverse these mistakes but the window is closing fast for me.

 

[Barney Rubble]

Just one piece of info I thought I should pass on, a pretty huge one IMO, at least for me.

A very unlikely one, too - Brock Lesnar has refused to rule out a return to wrestling! He was asked about it recently and said, "they would have to pay me big to come back". It's unlikely, but I suppose there are more unlikely things in wrestling.

He might have problems outside of the ring, like when it comes to deciding on a career, but I always enjoyed seeing Lesnar in the ring. Probably the only guy who was booked like a monster, and actually succeeding in convincing me that he was the kind of guy who would destroy people in a heartbeat. Everyone used to mark out when he hit the F-5 on a guy like Big Show or Mark Henry, just for the immense feat of strength it was. Plus, everyone remembers when he superplexed Big Show and broke the ring.

Lesnar vs Batista at WMXXV? That's a Batista match I would definitely pay to see.

 

[Agent TBY]

If Lesnar does come back, the last thing I want to see is him fighting a big man. Feats of strength, etc got old quickly after WM3. The reason Brock was so popular was his wrestling. Having a freak that big actually pull off wrestling holds and moves, and being that fast was awesome to watch. Lashley was supposedly just as athletic, but look where that got him.

Brock's forte in wrestling is against small men, because he's the only big man opponent who'll tango with them. If he does come back, put him up as a heel against Punk or MVP, and watch their popularity skyrocket.

 

[Majin]

I love Ezekiel, he looks exactly like Mr. T. Seriously, put that ghetto mohawk on his head and the man is Mr. T 30 years ago. It doesn't matter how crap he is in the ring I'll love him regardless.

 

[pup11]

WWE no longer holds any interest for me, i loved it back in the Lesnar and Goldberg days, but since then the standard of the shows and story-lines have gone down rapidly, demise of Eddie guerrero and Benoit and exit of Angle from WWE, has further hurt the WWE, i hope Lesnar come backs and if that happens i would surely start giving a lot more attention to the WWE.

 

[pup11]

If Lesnar does come back, the last thing I want to see is him fighting a big man. Feats of strength, etc got old quickly after WM3. The reason Brock was so popular was his wrestling. Having a freak that big actually pull off wrestling holds and moves, and being that fast was awesome to watch. Lashley was supposedly just as athletic, but look where that got him.

Brock's forte in wrestling is against small men, because he's the only big man opponent who'll tango with them. If he does come back, put him up as a heel against Punk or MVP, and watch their popularity skyrocket.

Lesnar v Mysteriyo, now that would be interesting for sure.

 

[Agent TBY]

Lesnar and Goldberg days

Wow, that was WMXX, and you had to go mention that.

 

[Dark Hunter]

So I've only just started following WWE in the past few weeks, Always sorta just ignored it, but actually watching the storylines unfold and etc, I've realised its quite entertaining.

A couple of questions: I've seen people using the term 'heel', what does that mean? And also, judging from opinions, people don't like Cena v Batista match up for Summerslam, how come? I'm looking forward to it, they're both good wrestlers, so it should be an entertaining match IMO.

 

[Agent TBY]

So I've only just started following WWE in the past few weeks, Always sorta just ignored it, but actually watching the storylines unfold and etc, I've realised its quite entertaining.

A couple of questions: I've seen people using the term 'heel', what does that mean? And also, judging from opinions, people don't like Cena v Batista match up for Summerslam, how come? I'm looking forward to it, they're both good wrestlers, so it should be an entertaining match IMO.

"Heel" and "Face" are two of the three classes of characters. Heels being the ones who are the bad guys, whereas Faces are the ones who are clean-cut, fan favourites. "Tweener" is someone in between, a gray character if you will.

It might just be a internet fan opinion, but I don't think either Cena or Batista are good wrestlers. Cena is decent or serviceable at best, whereas Batista is just poor.