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New Cricket Trivia - 'SJS format'

SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
zaremba said:
PS I think SJS's question about the batsmen featured in the coaching book is still live.
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Thats okay.

By the way the coaching book in question was the MCC Cricket Coaching Book (1955). I thought it was wonderful to see the sport's top authority (at least then) and a stickler for tradition and orthodoxy, demonstrating so emphatically that there was more to Larwood than "bodyline". Its so sad that so many of the fans today do not have a clue as to how great a bowler Larwood was and that the greatest loss to the game of cricket of the sad events of that series were that the game did not see one of its all Champions again at the highest level.

I am always reminded of Lindwall being admonished by an Australian fan who said he (Lindwall) copied Larwood and Lindwall responded saying something to the effect that "why shouldn't I copy The Master".

Larwood, Lindwall and Lillee. Just imagine having these three in one playing XI. Each one of them carrying on the tradition of the ultimate perfection in fast bowling.

When and where will the next in that great line be?

By the way, while the new question id going on. Those interested can still attempt the side question on batsmen based on these big hints.

Batsman No 1. :
Three pictures depicting
- Grip
- Stance
- Forward defense​

Batsman No 2. :
Three pictures depicting
- Backlift and forward movement at the beginning of the off drive
- Stepping out and pushing to mid wicket
- Square Cut.​

Batsman No 3. :
Three pictures depicting
- Jumping out to drive
- Finish of the above
- Late Cut​

Batsman No 4 :
Two shots depicting
- Backlift and movement onto the backfoot at the begining of a backfoot shot/defence
- Forcing shot to mid on off the front foot.​

Batsman No 5 :
Two shots depicting
- Finish of a front foot off drive
- Finish of a backfoot on drive.​

Batsman No 6 :
Two shots depicting
- Backfoot drive to covers
- Finish of a hook.​

There are two Australians and four Englishmen here :)

Anyone wants to give it a try.
 
W

wisden18

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
In answer to the Clark quesiton, to quote Rosenwater, "He played more innings in first-class cricket - nine - than any other man who never made a run."

So presumably that is the answer you are after?
 
zaremba

zaremba

Cricketer Of The Year
So, one more English batsman to get. Can you give us a clue - which of the batsmen (nos. to 6) is he?

(I suspect Trumper was number 3?)
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
zaremba said:
So, one more English batsman to get. Can you give us a clue - which of the batsmen (nos. to 6) is he?

(I suspect Trumper was number 3?)
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Okay. Here it is

Batsman No 1. :
Three pictures depicting
- Grip
- Stance
- Forward defense
------------------Dennis Compton​

Batsman No 2. :
Three pictures depicting
- Backlift and forward movement at the beginning of the off drive
- Stepping out and pushing to mid wicket
- Square Cut
.-----------------------Don Bradman​

Batsman No 3. :
Three pictures depicting
- Jumping out to drive
- Finish of the above
- Late Cut
------------------------Victor Trumper​

Batsman No 4 :
Two shots depicting
- Backlift and movement onto the backfoot at the begining of a backfoot shot/defence
- Forcing shot to mid on off the front foot
...........................????????​

Batsman No 5 :
Two shots depicting
- Finish of a front foot off drive
- Finish of a backfoot on drive.
----------------------Len Hutton​

Batsman No 6 :
Two shots depicting
- Backfoot drive to covers
- Finish of a hook.
---------------------------Bill Edrich​
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
I am really surprised that you guys did not get this.

How can you think (correctly of course) of Bill Edrich and not be able to think of WG !!! :@
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
Lillian Thomson said:
I always thought he re-wrote the coaching manual, not merely appeared in it.
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:)

Frankly, I was quite stunned by Beldam's action photographs of him in Great Batsmen : Their Methods at a Glance..

It is amazing how little difference there is in his technique and that of great batsmen right upto the modern times. Surely the evolution of batting had run 90% of its course with WG. He even slogged with a completely cross bat.

Then you can see how quickly the few changes left were made over the turn of the century. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that batting, as a skill had reached its height (as far as evolution is concerned) by the Golden Era and the first decade of the 20th century. The bats men were now standing more or less as the traditional coaches will tell you to stand today with both feet balanced and either side of the batting crease as against the earlier practice of the left foot leading and turned almost towards the bowler indicating a predominance of the front foot.

The bat in the stance had come to rest lightly against the left thigh as against the way WG held it, slightly away from the legs with the blade almost 90 degrees from the ground.

Its superb the way these people played the horizontal bat shots, rolling the wrist over while playing both the cuts and the pulls and the hooks. I think they set the tone for some brilliant backfoot play unlike what we tend to think. The range of cutting was remarkable. Of course this should not be a surprise. In forty years, I have seen the late cut completely disappear from the batting of most top players and I dont see anyone teaching this most beautiful and innovative, yet safe of the strokes which could electrify the limited overs game. Instead we have the 'running down the slips' which almost cant be taught and so has no 'grammer' so to speak and hence so fraught with danger.

By the way, I was recently re-reading, O'Rielly's autobiography and was stunned at the vehemence of his attack against England's killing of leg-spin bowling and the lbw rule which discriminates against leg spinners and was brought about mainly because England just had no counter for Grimmett and O'Rielly.

It is fascinating and very thought provoking stuff.


Subsequent changes have been very much more cosmetic or, in some cases, innovative brought about by the onslaught of the limited overs game.

Subsequent changes
 
SJS

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
OK. I am going ahead with another one.

For five consecutive first class seasons,
- I scored more runs than WG
- at a better average than WG
- scored many more hundreds
- had more fifty plus scores
- got many more wickets than him
- at a much lower average​

In fact even if you take my entire career, my batting average is lower than WG's by just 0.11 !!

And yet, I did not play for England and what is worse, people dont remember me today for what I did with bat and ball.

Who am I ?
 
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