Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
Are you English?
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New Cricket Trivia - 'SJS format'
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fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Was your debut delayed to age 26 by worldwide conflict?
archie mac
International Coach
Aussie?
Did you debut before 1940?
Did you debut before 1940?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Yes and yes
archie mac
International Coach
Tiger?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
There are to many tigers in this game. I presume you mean O'Rielly...NO
archie mac
International Coach
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
I made my debut at the age of 26. We lost the match but in a team with some legendary cricketers, I was the stand out performer. The same was the case throughout that debut season of mine and yet no body seemed to notice or so you would be excused to think.
Who am I ?
Q1. Was this a domestic first class season? ..... Yes
Q2. Garry Sobers? ....NO
Q3. Debut befire 1970 ? ......Yes.
Q4. Were you still playing in the 70's? ..... NO
Q5. Are you English? ..... NO
Q6. Was your debut delayed to age 26 by worldwide conflict? ......NO
Q7. Aussie? .....YES
Q8. Did you debut before 1940? ....... YES
Q9. Tiger ? ....NO
Q10. Did you make this debut for NSW? .....YES
That was pretty good
Who am I ?
Q1. Was this a domestic first class season? ..... Yes
Q2. Garry Sobers? ....NO
Q3. Debut befire 1970 ? ......Yes.
Q4. Were you still playing in the 70's? ..... NO
Q5. Are you English? ..... NO
Q6. Was your debut delayed to age 26 by worldwide conflict? ......NO
Q7. Aussie? .....YES
Q8. Did you debut before 1940? ....... YES
Q9. Tiger ? ....NO
Q10. Did you make this debut for NSW? .....YES
That was pretty good
archie mac
International Coach
Did you play Test cricket?
If yes Mailey?
If yes Mailey?
archie mac
International Coach
Is your first name James?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
archie mac
International Coach
Did you debut before 1920?
fredfertang
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Jack Marsh?
SJS
Hall of Fame Member
Yes. Very well done indeed.
I am always amazed by how badly Marsh was treated, I believe mainly because of his ethnic origins. I have just ordered his biography and am really looking forward to it. For those not familiar with him, here is a piece on him from The Oxford Companion to Australian Cricket
Jack Marsh was an outstanding Aboriginal bowler who suffered from covert racism which not only prevented his selection for Australia but also limited his his first class opportunities to six matches for NSW from 1900-01 to 1902-03. Born a member of the Bunjdalung people at Yugilbar on the Clarence River, Marsh first made his mark as a professional runner, following his elder brother Larry to the Sydney tracks in 1893. A sprinter and a hurdler, Jack Marsh had a number of important wins and competed in Qld, Vic and NSW.
He began playing cricket in Moore Park competition, then with South Sydney in 1897/98 and (following a merger) with Sydney. Marsh was a brilliant performer in grade cricket and topped the bowling averages from 1901 to 1904. but he was the worst victim of hysteria over throwing in both Australia and England. In his only full first class season in 1900/01 he led the Australian FC bowling averages with 21 wickets at 17.38 from just three games. Marsh took five for 181 from 53* overs on his debut against South Australia at Adelaide, bowling with persistence and tenacity and took 5 for 34 and 5 for 59 in the return match against SA.
In his fourth match at Victoria at the SCG in February 1901, Marsh was no-balled for throwing 17 times in the first innings by Victorian umpire Bob Crocket. The umpire's action threw a cloud of suspicion over Marsh's subsequent career and enabled the NSW side selector, Monty Noble to ignore frequent calls to pick him in Shield matches.
Marsh was at the centre of controversy involving the English captain Archie MacLaren, who requested that Marsh not play in a match at Bathurst in 1902 :Marsh was forced to withdraw.Two years later he played his only international match at Bathurst and took 5 for 55, bowling off cutters and a mixture of medium paced deliveries against Pelham Warner's MCC side, but again his action was considered suspect.
In later years Marsh also experimented with the googly. Judges such as JC Davis, Les Poidevin and Warren Bardsley rated him highly in the same class as Charles Turner, Fred Spofforth and England's Syd Barnes.
Marsh died after an assault as a result of an argument outside the billiard saloon of the Royal Hotel, Orange. His two assailants, who were charged with manslaughter, were later acquitted.
He began playing cricket in Moore Park competition, then with South Sydney in 1897/98 and (following a merger) with Sydney. Marsh was a brilliant performer in grade cricket and topped the bowling averages from 1901 to 1904. but he was the worst victim of hysteria over throwing in both Australia and England. In his only full first class season in 1900/01 he led the Australian FC bowling averages with 21 wickets at 17.38 from just three games. Marsh took five for 181 from 53* overs on his debut against South Australia at Adelaide, bowling with persistence and tenacity and took 5 for 34 and 5 for 59 in the return match against SA.
In his fourth match at Victoria at the SCG in February 1901, Marsh was no-balled for throwing 17 times in the first innings by Victorian umpire Bob Crocket. The umpire's action threw a cloud of suspicion over Marsh's subsequent career and enabled the NSW side selector, Monty Noble to ignore frequent calls to pick him in Shield matches.
Marsh was at the centre of controversy involving the English captain Archie MacLaren, who requested that Marsh not play in a match at Bathurst in 1902 :Marsh was forced to withdraw.Two years later he played his only international match at Bathurst and took 5 for 55, bowling off cutters and a mixture of medium paced deliveries against Pelham Warner's MCC side, but again his action was considered suspect.
In later years Marsh also experimented with the googly. Judges such as JC Davis, Les Poidevin and Warren Bardsley rated him highly in the same class as Charles Turner, Fred Spofforth and England's Syd Barnes.
Marsh died after an assault as a result of an argument outside the billiard saloon of the Royal Hotel, Orange. His two assailants, who were charged with manslaughter, were later acquitted.
What a terrible terrible story.
* In that debut match Marsh was thrown to the wolves, as it were, by his NSW skipper Syd Gregory. In a side which had three Australian bowlers in Noble (42 Tests) Howell (18 Tests) and Hopkins (290 Tests), gregory made him bowl 53 overs as Clem Hill sent NSW on a leather hunt with his 365 not out.
