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the best Asian cricketer
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silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
I'd put Ranatunga in there just because of his awesoness at pissing people off.
ret
International Debutant
it's close b/w Tendulkar and Imran in my book
but if I had to chose one and someone who could make a positive difference no matter what the conditions then I would pick Tendulkar .... in bowler friendly conditions, most bowlers would be effective so would Imran but someone like Tendulkar would bat well in tough conditions too be it ODIs or Tests .... in batting friendly conditions, Tendulkar would do well, along with most batsmen but Imran's bowling may not be that useful
it's like saying whom would you pick, Richards or Imran and i would be tempted to pick Richards and similarly, Tendulkar here
but if I had to chose one and someone who could make a positive difference no matter what the conditions then I would pick Tendulkar .... in bowler friendly conditions, most bowlers would be effective so would Imran but someone like Tendulkar would bat well in tough conditions too be it ODIs or Tests .... in batting friendly conditions, Tendulkar would do well, along with most batsmen but Imran's bowling may not be that useful
it's like saying whom would you pick, Richards or Imran and i would be tempted to pick Richards and similarly, Tendulkar here
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Did you just land up from mars or just like making random statements ?
Imran's best performance in a series came in 1982-83 in a series that was played on flattest tracks one could possibly imagine. He returned with 40 wickets in 6 tests @13.95 Avg. Next Best bowler in that series was Sarfaraj Nawaz who took 19 @33.31, Kapil 24 @34.62.
That bowling performance by Imran is one of the greatest (if not the greatest) performances in a series by any bowler (fast or spin) in the history of test cricket. He was up against the likes of Mohinder Amarnath, Sunny Gavaskar, Sandip Patil, Dilip Vengsarkar, G Vishwanath and Kapil Dev argubaly India's finest batting lineup against pace bowling.
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
ret
International Debutant
well, he is one of my two top selections, isn't he? .... it's common sense that you don't select someone in your top two just because he has a fancy name. that kind of performances by Imran is precisely why I have him ahead of so many cricketers in Asia and as I said he is one of my top two with Tendulkar just edging him out in my book due to the reasons that I gave in my last post
2nd, i m rating them based on both ODIs and tests .... it's common knowledge than Imran's bowling in ODI [10 overs] may not be as useful as Tendulkar's batting in most cases .... in Test, i will again pick Tendulkar coz of his ability to do well in any conditions 'better' than Imran [not that Imran cant do well]
so i don't understand why are you babbling .... Just because I rated Imran as one of the best two in Asia [if you know what best two means] but picked Tendulkar like I would in case if it were Richards vs Imran
.... ofc I made that pick assuming that I can only pick one of the two and thats coz this is abt the best Asian cricketer and not cricketers learn to comprehend things before posting or you will continue to make a fool out of your self
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Not heard that one before.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Okay Please tell me how one should comprehend the following :-
"...in batting friendly conditions, Tendulkar would do well, along with most batsmen but Imran's bowling may not be that useful"
Only thing that I can comprehend from the above is your ignorance. I dont think you watched Imran bowl much.
Dissector
International Debutant
Imran is easily no.1.
After that it gets a little difficult but the next five probably would be Murali, Kapil, Akram, Sachin and Vinoo Mankad roughly in that order.
Quite a few all-rounders, I know, but I always feel they tend to be underestimated in terms of the sheer value they bring to the side.
After that it gets a little difficult but the next five probably would be Murali, Kapil, Akram, Sachin and Vinoo Mankad roughly in that order.
Quite a few all-rounders, I know, but I always feel they tend to be underestimated in terms of the sheer value they bring to the side.
ret
International Debutant
well, i think what I said is quite clear if you read the whole thing and not pick out lines .... and if someone is taking abt both ODIs and tests in one case then its implied that its apples to apples in the other
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Why are you counting Imran's contribution only as a Bowler ? You are comparing them as cricketers overall not just as bowlers/batsmen. In ODIs (or for that matter in any other format) Imran's bowling, Batting and Captaincy will outweigh Tendulkar's batting fairly easily.
Not that Imran was a slouch as an ODI bowler. One watched him with awe on that fateful day in Sharjah where he sent 6 Indian batsmen back for just 14 runs and returned with a figure that probably still stands as the best figure for a fast bowler against a top 8 cricket playing nation.
His ODI bowling figures suffered a great deal when he came back from retirement. Imran's ODI Bowling avg. after first retirement(102 matches) - 21.72 , Since coming back from his retirement(73 matches) - 35.4
Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
ret
International Debutant
I have watched Imran Khan bowl against India but I have never felt nervous when he is bowling to our batsmen. in fact, i m most nervous when Wasim is bowling
I don't think that the combination that Imran brings to the table outweights what Tendulkar offers. that combination only brings Imran closer to Tendulkar
yes, that 6/14 was an awesome performance by Imran, though India won that game. But don't know how many performances like that Imran came up with [4 or more wkts in an innings], while Tendulkar has so many 100s and many of them would be comparable to that Imran's performance with bowling. so its more like a few good bowling perforances by Imran in ODIs vs tons of 100s that Tendulkar has scored
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
It is still Early days.Do I sense another entry looming for the legendary Sanz Ignore List?
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
It can only mean that you didn't watch him much (live) or may be watched when he was in the twilight of his career.
That's your opinion and I will respect that despite the disagreement.
No, Only one Tendulkar ODI inning that I feel is comparable to Imran's 6/14, quite ironically, India ended up losing that match. It was made at the same venue as well. That Imran didn't take as many 5fers as one would wish can be attributed to many things but it certainly didn't make him any less of an ODI bowler. His record ,as an ODI bowler, until his first retirement was one of the finest.
ret
International Debutant
let me put it this way, in ODIs Imran Khan as a bowler would struggle more to get into the top 3 bowler's list than Tendulkar would in batsmen's .... in fact in ODIs, Tendulkar is the best batsman, along with Richards. the same cannot be said about Imran Khan as a bowler
Tendulkar has played so many gems be it the two against Aus at Sharjah, his performance in 2003 WC, in 1996 WC, his cool 100s in the Natwest in 2002, his 80 odd in NZ, his 180 odd against NZ to his performance in the recent CB series
and ofc, I have no problems with people thinking that Imran is the best Asian cricketer as everyone is entitled to an opinion
is this about the best asian odi cricketer or the best asian cricketer? if it is the best cricketer, tests are the arbitrer of cricketing excellence and no one in asia has achieved more than imran as a bowler, imran as an allrounder, imran as an inspirational leader....