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Official Pro-Wrestling Thread (WWE, TNA, ROH etc.)

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duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah, looking forward to seeing Carlito too, and despite being a heel DH Smith will get a big pop for being Davey Boy's son. All in all, I really can't wait.
Yep, guaranteed to be mega over in England but really disappointed with the meh reactions he got when he did that horrible squash with JBL. Hated it so much, from all accounts he's a good all-round talent. These are the types of guys they need to be packaging well and pushing.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Yeah Finlay has got pretty stale tbh, since the McMahon-Hornswoggle angle was axed he's had absolutely zilch to work with, and is adding nothing much to the company at this time, which is poor show really, as they should be using him as much as possible to pass on his experience to the younger guys. But yeah, a heel turn would probably be for the best at this stage.

But yeah, good point re: ECW title....I hadn't thought of it like that, but you're completely right, there are no credible challengers on ECW at all... Speaking of ECW...i'm beginning to doubt that they'll keep it going for much longer, as it got beaten by Impact in the ratings the other night, and now the roster being diminished I doubt they will bother with it for much longer, which will be a relief quite frankly.
Heel Finlay is awesome. He is a great guy backstage too by all accounts, a proper team player and one of the best wrestling coaches you'll find. Would love for him to take a couple of months off and come back pushed as a strong heel. I love his old-school bad ass mick style. The type of company guy who you shouldn't piss off or lose.

And ECW has been a joke since they brought it back. They had a decent following before but the watered down low grade product they've put on has pretty much been a train wreck. Punk is the only real good thing to come out of that program.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
From Triple H's first speech on SD!. "You know what, the more things change I'm comforted by the fact that they also stay the same" :laugh:

But in all honesty, Smaackdown was a good show this weekend, wouldn't mind Trips dropping the belt to Cena and going after Edge in the long run.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
From Triple H's first speech on SD!. "You know what, the more things change I'm comforted by the fact that they also stay the same" :laugh:

But in all honesty, Smaackdown was a good show this weekend, wouldn't mind Trips dropping the belt to Cena and going after Edge in the long run.
Huh? Has SmackDown already been shown in your part of the world then? It's still 10 hours 'till it's on over here!
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
And ECW has been a joke since they brought it back. They had a decent following before but the watered down low grade product they've put on has pretty much been a train wreck. Punk is the only real good thing to come out of that program
Quite enjoyed it when they first brought it back tbh, but then again that was when Heyman was still part of the creative team. Best memory of the reincarnation for me was the Batista vs Big Show match at the hammerstein ballroon in New York, the fans giving massive heat to both guys and chanting stuff like "change the channel" etc...which was very obvious to anyone watching on TV. To compound the stupidity of the whole thing the commentary team of Taz and Styles were trying to play it up by saying stuff like "why would we want to change the channel? this is a great match!" which was quite frankly embarrassing for the both of them. Batista getting angry at a guy in the crowd and confronting him was also high amusing.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Huh? Has SmackDown already been shown in your part of the world then? It's still 10 hours 'till it's on over here!
Ya, it's on Friday afternoons in Oz, sort of in keeping with the name. Apparently we get it before anyone. Now if only they could make it worth watching regularly.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Ya, it's on Friday afternoons in Oz, sort of in keeping with the name. Apparently we get it before anyone. Now if only they could make it worth watching regularly.
Yeah it's nice to get some programming before anybody else in the world. Loved it when Smackdown was actually good back in the day.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
From Triple H's first speech on SD!. "You know what, the more things change I'm comforted by the fact that they also stay the same" :laugh:

But in all honesty, Smaackdown was a good show this weekend, wouldn't mind Trips dropping the belt to Cena and going after Edge in the long run.
That would be the most ideal solution. This Smackdown was possibly the best I've seen in a long time. Although they still had some awful stuff on their i.e. anything with Hornswaggle, the Domino match and the tag match involving Mark Henry, Kane and MVP.

Still nice to see some new fresh faces and new dynamics on Smackdown though. JR's commentary adds a lot as well and it was clear that Foley was more comfortable in working with JR then he has been all this time with Michael Cole.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Downloaded and watched bits of Night of Champions just then. Thoughts:

Hardy v Chavo: Decent, Hardy winning surprising no-one.

ECW Title: Ugh, really bad and made worse by Mark Henry getting the crown. ECW is dead to me now.

Tag Titles match: Meh, shame no-one even knew who DiBiase was.

Y2J v Kofi: Normally I'd have no problem with Kofi winning but the way it was done was terrible, no-one came out looking strong defeating the whole purpose really.

Edge v Batista: Great match with a terrible finish. Really pissed off at Batista for not doing the right thing here. The whole Chavo running in as ref thing well and truly ****ed me off.

Triple H v Cena: Another good match. Shocked Cena did the job here. Now Raw has no title and the biggest draw on the show (Cena) was made to look weak after having his finisher reversed into a pedigree.

Overall, show wasn't bad but I can't get my head around how they're going to approach the ME scene now. Fearing a bit for Edge now, he has so much momentum right now and deserves to hang onto the belt but I'm dreading seeing him put in the shade by having another champ on one show. Interesting to see how this pans out.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Y2J v Kofi: Normally I'd have no problem with Kofi winning but the way it was done was terrible, no-one came out looking strong defeating the whole purpose really.
AWTA, no shame in having someone like Kofi go over you, and its good that the E are pushing a new guy. But the stupid thing is, jwericho and cade who are obviously being built up as the big Heels of RAW have been made to look weak, and credibility has once again been destroyed. This is obviously leading up to a Y2J/HBK or maybe a Cade/HBK match at Summerslam, hopring and praying that HBK does the job on that one.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Thought the tag titles angle was pretty decent actually, Cody turning heel wasn't at all expected, quite enjoyed that one, will look out for how this pans out.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
Was suprised that Punk didn't cash in the MITB tbh
The thought of that happening did occur to me last night actually, though with hindsight its kind of obvious why this didn't happen. To have one of Edge or HHH who have both been dominant in the last few weeks/months to lose to a guy who has been jobbing on ECW pretty much since WM would be a bit of an anti-climax ending to the show. Does make you wonder where they plan to go with this MITB business though tbh, as its kind of obvious now that they never intended to have Punk win it in the first place, and that he was a rushed replacement for Jeff Hardy...wonder if we may see a cash in and him getting defeated sometime in the near future.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
Downloaded and watched bits of Night of Champions just then. Thoughts:

Hardy v Chavo: Decent, Hardy winning surprising no-one.

ECW Title: Ugh, really bad and made worse by Mark Henry getting the crown. ECW is dead to me now.

Tag Titles match: Meh, shame no-one even knew who DiBiase was.

Y2J v Kofi: Normally I'd have no problem with Kofi winning but the way it was done was terrible, no-one came out looking strong defeating the whole purpose really.

Edge v Batista: Great match with a terrible finish. Really pissed off at Batista for not doing the right thing here. The whole Chavo running in as ref thing well and truly ****ed me off.

Triple H v Cena: Another good match. Shocked Cena did the job here. Now Raw has no title and the biggest draw on the show (Cena) was made to look weak after having his finisher reversed into a pedigree.

Overall, show wasn't bad but I can't get my head around how they're going to approach the ME scene now. Fearing a bit for Edge now, he has so much momentum right now and deserves to hang onto the belt but I'm dreading seeing him put in the shade by having another champ on one show. Interesting to see how this pans out.
What an average PPV. Won't even bother watching this one. When the most compelling thing on the show is a Cody Rhodes heel turn then you know your product isn't the best.

Seriously, why Smackdown has two World Title belts is beyond me. I'm happy for Mark Henry winning the ECW World Title. Here's a guy who may not be the most charismatic, may not be the most athletic but he's certainly been loyal to WWE throughout the years.

Remembering back to the awful storylines of him and Mae Young, him and Chyna and then all those injuries he's sustained, plus putting up with the racism of Michael Hayes and the other writers and still lasting in WWE for 12 years, he deserves this run even if you don't like him. I have no doubt this is more of a 'Thank You' to Mark and also a clever public relations strategy after the Michael Hayes/Mark Henry racism debacle was made public.

Plus Mark Henry seems like a genuinely nice guy from all accounts, so good on him.
 

masterblaster

International Captain
The thought of that happening did occur to me last night actually, though with hindsight its kind of obvious why this didn't happen. To have one of Edge or HHH who have both been dominant in the last few weeks/months to lose to a guy who has been jobbing on ECW pretty much since WM would be a bit of an anti-climax ending to the show. Does make you wonder where they plan to go with this MITB business though tbh, as its kind of obvious now that they never intended to have Punk win it in the first place, and that he was a rushed replacement for Jeff Hardy...wonder if we may see a cash in and him getting defeated sometime in the near future.
You know, if WWE were smart they could really market CM Punk as a true World Champion and hero. A guy who doesn't smoke, doesn't do any drugs, abstains from alcohol completely and isn't into the party lifestyle would be a perfect spokesman for their organisation in today's climate where wrestling is seen as a corrupt pool of drug addicts.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
What an average PPV. Won't even bother watching this one. When the most compelling thing on the show is a Cody Rhodes heel turn then you know your product isn't the best.

Seriously, why Smackdown has two World Title belts is beyond me. I'm happy for Mark Henry winning the ECW World Title. Here's a guy who may not be the most charismatic, may not be the most athletic but he's certainly been loyal to WWE throughout the years.

Remembering back to the awful storylines of him and Mae Young, him and Chyna and then all those injuries he's sustained, plus putting up with the racism of Michael Hayes and the other writers and still lasting in WWE for 12 years, he deserves this run even if you don't like him. I have no doubt this is more of a 'Thank You' to Mark and also a clever public relations strategy after the Michael Hayes/Mark Henry racism debacle was made public.

Plus Mark Henry seems like a genuinely nice guy from all accounts, so good on him.
Yeah AWTA, for all my moanings about him it is an undeniable fact that he has worked hard for the WWE over the years desoite a series of problems. I had forgotten most of the degrading storylines he was made to do as well tbh, remarkable that he stuck with the company that long with all this politics etc... but props to him, wonder how much longer he will last though, I thought his infamous ten year contract expired a year or so ago?

Tbh I thought the PPV looked ok, I've not seen any of it, but I thought it sounded alright, nothing amazing obviously, but not awful, even by WWE standards.
 

sledger

Spanish_Vicente
You know, if WWE were smart they could really market CM Punk as a true World Champion and hero. A guy who doesn't smoke, doesn't do any drugs, abstains from alcohol completely and isn't into the party lifestyle would be a perfect spokesman for their organisation in today's climate where wrestling is seen as a corrupt pool of drug addicts.
What's truly baffling though, is the fact that apparently Vince and Stephanie both really really rate Punk, so why he's been put out in the cold since WM is anyones guess. Though I suppose his new move to RAW could be a step towards changing this.
 

Barney Rubble

International Coach
I really don't see why some members of the IWC are so critical. I thought Night of Champions was a fantastic show, from an entertainment point of view.

We got three title changes, some new Superstars being pushed (Kofi, DiBiase, and in a funny way, Rhodes), and some surprise endings (RAW ending without a title). The matches were all average or better - even the ECW title match exceeded expectations - and they didn't waste time with all sorts of ridiculous backstage skits like they usually do on PPV.

Triple H-John Cena was a fantastic match in my opinion, and Edge-Batista was the best of their many encounters so far. Batista has been up a gear or two this year. People are complaining about the "bull****" finish to that match, but the fact is, a clean defeat for Batista would have made him look weak going into his move to RAW, and a clean win for Edge would have been pointless, seeing as La Familia are going to be helping him out for the foreseeable future anyway.

A suggestion I've already heard mooted, which intrigues me greatly, is Triple H versus Edge at SummerSlam, with the loser having to drop their title and hand it over back to RAW. Of course, that makes it impossible to have the inevitable Edge-'Taker blowoff at SummerSlam, so I don't think it's likely. Triple H-Edge could well happen at GAB.

I'm calling it right now - Edge vs 'Taker at SummerSlam for the WHC, in a Buried Alive Match. Vickie turns on Edge at the wedding after finding out he cheated on her with their wedding planner (who's being featured on screen for a reason-people don't just randomly turn up and then disappear in WWE unless something's gone wrong), and brings back 'Taker to exact her revenge. 'Taker then gets his title back by burying Edge alive at SummerSlam.
 

Majin

International Debutant
Quite excited by Cody Rhodes heel turn actually, thing he will make a gun heel, especially if he is given mic time 'cause from what I've seen of him he'll be a heel promo genius.
 

duffer

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
What an average PPV. Won't even bother watching this one. When the most compelling thing on the show is a Cody Rhodes heel turn then you know your product isn't the best.

Seriously, why Smackdown has two World Title belts is beyond me. I'm happy for Mark Henry winning the ECW World Title. Here's a guy who may not be the most charismatic, may not be the most athletic but he's certainly been loyal to WWE throughout the years.

Remembering back to the awful storylines of him and Mae Young, him and Chyna and then all those injuries he's sustained, plus putting up with the racism of Michael Hayes and the other writers and still lasting in WWE for 12 years, he deserves this run even if you don't like him. I have no doubt this is more of a 'Thank You' to Mark and also a clever public relations strategy after the Michael Hayes/Mark Henry racism debacle was made public.

Plus Mark Henry seems like a genuinely nice guy from all accounts, so good on him.
Quite forgot about the racism, mainly becauuse I assume that every woman or minority invovled in the WWE has to endure brutal discrimination at some point or other. But I think a lot of his loyalty has something to do with teh fat 10 year contract Vince handed him ;)
 
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